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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Conrad
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    edited 31 March 2017 at 2:37PM
    Figure A: CPI 12-month inflation rate for the last 10 years (2003 -2013)


    Did the UK collapse as a result of inflation, where people constanly warning of the catastrophe this would cause?
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  • CKhalvashi
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    Conrad wrote: »
    China is a rapidly growing market with a fast growing middle class, hence why huge growth in smart phones.


    In any event China is one of many nations we will be free to trade with as we see fit on our terms with no Brussels interference and before you mention Germany, it makes a loss on it's China trade and the level of trade is still low.


    I don't know why you cannot sense the huge opportunities ahead, whilst making a slight adjustment to our EU trade.

    And how much does it cost to get to China? Include visas in that too.

    On the other hand, how much does it cost to get to anywhere in Europe currently, factoring in that there's no need for a visa?

    Having had a skim of the EU docs in the last hour, looks like they want a transition deal, giving the UK long enough to get the Tories out. Sounds good to me! :beer:
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  • Conrad
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  • Sapphire
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    suecoo66 wrote: »
    We keep hearing what 'might' happen but nobody knows for certain !
    Can't say I'm looking forward to the next 2yrs of hearing about it on the news constantly !!
    I think that even after the negotiations are over and its finalised there will be teething problems and initial issues but will eventually settle down. Much the same as any new system or company that sets up.
    I do think though that other countries could follow suit as there must be other's who aren't happy with the EU regulations and the EU over ruling on their own countries laws.

    I agree. I am sick to the blinking' teeth of hearing the undemocratic, unelected petty dictators of the EU politburo and their threats (I've actually stopped listening to the BBC altogether, and almost ceased reading the press). If anything has convinced me that we must leave the EU (asap), it is such threats to a democratic, sovereign nation, which categorically does not want to cede its sovereignty. I feel a sense of outrage at their behaviour, when they must surely see the discontent there is with them throughout continental Europe, yet are only prepared to make nations do what they (the dictators) want, without any thought that it is they themselves who need to change, radically. I think there are quite a few nations that will not agree to loss of sovereignty, either, in the long run (though they are being blackmailed at present).

    I also feel a sense of outrage at the people who dropped us into this situation (and even continue to argue for it!), with no one being given any idea that belonging to the economic union went with ceding sovereignty!

    (But I love your little dog. :dance:)
  • Conrad
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    edited 31 March 2017 at 2:42PM
    CKhalvashi wrote: »


    And how much does it cost to get to China? Include visas in that too.

    On the other hand, how much does it cost to get to anywhere in Europe currently, factoring in that there's no need for a visa?


    And we will still go to Europe and, wait for it,....................................... still trade almost as easily as now!!


    And by some Occult black art, huge amounts of services and goods are sold into Europe from the non EU world - honestly!!


    1) Still trade very similar volumes with EU
    2) Free to tailor make our future as a nimble global player, not bound to the lumbering EU ball n chain
    3) Make the most of global alliances - yes more easily than can be done now (and before you mention Germany, she too would trade more to the globe if free of EU chains)
  • CKhalvashi
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    Conrad wrote: »
    And we will still go to Europe and, wait for it,....................................... still trade almost as easily as now!!

    I don't know if you actually noticed or not, as it seems not, but we are still an EU member.

    It may be why.
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  • Arklight
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    Conrad wrote: »
    China is a rapidly growing market with a fast growing middle class, hence why huge growth in smart phones.


    In any event China is one of many nations we will be free to trade with as we see fit on our terms with no Brussels interference and before you mention Germany, it makes a loss on it's China trade and the level of trade is still low.


    I don't know why you cannot sense the huge opportunities ahead, whilst making a slight adjustment to our EU trade.

    China does not want to trade freely with us or anyone else.

    We had that with the EU.

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  • CKhalvashi
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    Arklight wrote: »
    China does not want to trade freely with us or anyone else.

    We had that with the EU.

    :wall:

    Oh, and now we'll do anything to get a trade deal with India, after the then Home Secretary scuppered the EU one.

    It stinks of desparation and wanting the old empire bac, and that's not just me saying that, it's also an Indian friend who read about it.
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  • Tromking
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    I have to say that not being part of an homogeneous lump of nations while our economic future is being discussed is already feeling liberating. This return of sovereignty thing feels good.
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • CKhalvashi
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    Tromking wrote: »
    I have to say that not being part of an homogeneous lump of nations while our economic future is being discussed is already feeling liberating. This return of sovereignty thing feels good.

    We are still an EU member.
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