If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

I notice also that no one mentioned the £5 billion investment into the UK a few days ago.

Qatar pledged 5 billion pounds ($6.3 billion) of investment in Britain on Monday in a show of support for the world's fifth-largest economy just two days before Prime Minister Theresa May triggers formal Brexit talks.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-qatar-qia-brexit-idUKKBN16Y1YX

CKhalvashi

Tromking wrote: »

Re-read my post I'm talking about our future outwith the EU, you know the subject of the upcoming negotiations!

Conrad wrote: »

Read again, I was talking in future tense.

Ok, fine.

Answer this then. What happens if it goes wrong and the Tories lose their majority in the middle of a transition deal to 2 or 3 pro-EU parties, who want back in at a minimum to the single market(even though it's looking increasingly likely we won't have left it at that point)?

Not saying it will happen, however I am saying that with a new government being elected in 2020 and a transition deal lasting until 2022, it's very possible.

I also note the government haven't said no.

Oh, and please none of the 'it won't happen, it'll be fine', genuine 'what if' question.

setmefree2

Really good news.

UK Current Account Deficit Falls to Lowest Level in Years

The UK's current account deficit - that millstone that hangs around the Pound’s neck - fell sharply in the final quarter of 2016 it has been revealed.
The news will take economists by surprise as it suggests the UK’s overall trade position with the rest of the world has improved markedly and it would appear the devaluation of the Pound following the EU referendum in June has played no small part.
The latest Balance of Payments data from the ONS, released at 09:30 on Friday, March 31, show that the UK’s current account deficit was £12.1 billion in Quarter 4.
This represents a narrowing of £13.6 billion from a revised deficit of £25.7 billion in Quarter 3 2016.

https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/economics/6493-uk-current-account-deficit-at-lowest-in-years

Shakethedisease

Here's that Spanish veto we've all been waiting for... Only it's got nothing to do with Scotland.

Spain will be given an effective veto over the future of Gibraltar after Brexit under plans announced by the EU. The draft guidelines drawn up by EU leaders state that the Brexit deal will not apply to Gibraltar without an "agreement between the kingdom of Spain and the UK".
The clause has taken British officials by surprise. One told The Telegraph it is "absolutely unacceptable" and gives Spain too much power over the future of Gibraltar.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/31/outrage-spain-given-effective-veto-future-gibraltar-eu-plans/#

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

And yet strangely these things are managed every single day.
Weird, huh?

At huge cost and inconvenience.

Tromking

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

No.
What such posts as the quoted here "stink of" are the non-accepting bleatings of a small number of blinkered, dissatisfied pro-EU zealots.

It is unfortunately an all to often used tactic of the foreign born UK resident/EU citizen to insult others by harking back to the UK's imperial past. CK cheapens the debate on here by doing so.

BobQ

Fella wrote: »

Would you honestly have refused to accept an equally narrow victory for Remain?

Had the vote gone the other way (to remain) would you have accepted that this meant people voted for increasing political integration with the EU? Of course not!

What we are witnessing in the UK is that anyone who refuses to accept a hard Brexit is demonised as undemocratic. Well I must accept the vote but I do not have to like the disintegration of the UK or the view that " leave means whatever I tell you it means".

Right now I am being forced to accept that May and Davis have a clear plan that will see us amicably leave the EU. Well I do not believe it.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

At huge cost and inconvenience.

Again, "And yet strangely these things are managed every single day.
Weird, huh?"
One must assume it is worth it, otherwise why?

setmefree2

“A Phased Approach” – How to Decode the EU’s Brexit Guidelines

European Union Council President Donald Tusk sent draft Brexit negotiating guidelines to leaders of Britain's 27 EU partners on Friday, hoping to agree them on April 29 so that negotiations on British withdrawal can begin.These are key points of the 8-page draft, seen by Reuters:

PHASED APPROACH
If "sufficient progress" towards agreeing the terms of an "orderly withdrawal" on March 29, 2019, is made in a first phase of talks starting in early June, the EU27 could launch talks on how a long-term future free trade relationship could work, the draft says.

AKA Euro Fudge

TRANSITIONAL ARRANGEMENTS
Britain could have a few years after March 2019 when it does not have to give up all benefits of membership, to ease the shift for people and businesses. But in that case it would have to accept EU rules, e.g. on free migration, and submit to supervision by the European Court of Justice and other EU authorities.
"Any such transitional arrangements must be clearly defined, limited in time, and subject to effective enforcement mechanisms," the draft says.

NO DUMPING
Free trade will be a good outcome but Britain should not expect to get that if it seeks competitive advantages for its companies by state subsidies or by tearing up EU environmental or labor standards or setting itself up as a tax haven.
"Any free trade agreement should be balanced, ambitious and wide-ranging. It cannot, however, amount to participation in the Single Market or parts thereof, as this would undermine its integrity and proper functioning. It must ensure a level playing field in terms of competition and state aid, and must encompass safeguards against unfair competitive advantages through, inter alia, fiscal, social and environmental dumping."

http://fortune.com/2017/03/31/eu-brexit-guidelines-jargon-decode/

setmefree2

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Here's that Spanish veto we've all been waiting for... Only it's got nothing to do with Scotland.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/31/outrage-spain-given-effective-veto-future-gibraltar-eu-plans/#

The Spanish are such hypocrites. I wonder when they will give Ceuta back to Morocco?