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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    I'm sorry but from that post I really have to ask:
    Are you just trolling?
    Serious question BTW.

    Because looking at the EU Parliament's own website:
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20141202IFG82334/eu-budget-explained-expenditure-and-contribution-by-member-state

    Figures for 2015 (the latest they show) are as follows:


    From the same document, EU spending in the UK was 7,457.6 million Euros.

    Therefore the net UK contribution in 2015 was 18.21 less 7.46 less 1.07 from customs/farming as above(rounded up) equals 9.68 billion Euros.

    Just to remind you, these official figures are from the EU's own website.

    Oh, and that is unless the EU again decide to impose an extra payment because the UK did so well, as they did in 2014 with the extra 2 billion Euros BTW.

    So where does your 3 billion come from?
    An EU official link please?

    Nearly as bad as the 350 million (pounds) a week Brexit promise.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Spidernick
    Spidernick Posts: 3,803 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Brexit QT just started on BBC1

    David Dimbleby owned the show.
    'I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my father. Not screaming and terrified like his passengers.' (Bob Monkhouse).

    Sky? Believe in better.

    Note: win, draw or lose (not 'loose' - opposite of tight!)
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Nearly as bad as the 350 million (pounds) a week Brexit promise.




    What number do you prefer, £200 million per week?


    £2 billion every 10 weeks?


    What would you like the Govt to spend this on once we are out?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Surprise!
    These official figures show the UK to be far ahead of France.


    France overtook the UK for 5th place in 2016 because the size of an economy is measured by the value of it's goods and services against an international basket of currencies.
    UK slips below France in global economy table

    Fall in sterling means Britain now sixth when measured at market exchange rates
    https://www.ft.com/content/7508bf1e-8a46-11e6-8cb7-e7ada1d123b1

    India is due to knock us into 7th place shortly... And by some accounts, may already have done so.
    India has overtaken Britain as the world's sixth largest economy .
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4056296/India-overtakes-Britain-world-s-sixth-largest-economy-earth-planning-send-130-million-aid-end-2018.html#ixzz4ccTxJnIh
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    You're doing it again, Conrad.




    Ha, weeks, weeks weeks.


    Too much tea again.
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,182 Forumite
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    Oh I see - you have decided to be less than honest in your interpretation of figures, eh?
    By using "average" rather than current and by using a briefing paper rather than an official EU statement.
    A briefing paper which does not BTW include any figures for payments TO the EU.
    I have read the report.
    Show us all where it shows the gap to be £3 billion for the last available year or (better) 2015 please?

    The EU Parliaments figures are complete.
    Also here are Fullfact's figures - for the last available yearfor which statistics are available:

    https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

    The article I linked to said £3 billion. It comes from a different source to yours and I concede might be wrong but I didn't make it up.

    You seem rather angry.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    What number do you prefer, £200 million per week?


    £2 billion every 10 weeks?

    Let's settle on 8-9 bn net a year as Jock pointed out above. You okay with that?
    No need to inflate these figures anymore, the campaign is over, you lot have 'won' and the UK's suicide note will be in the post soon.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • France overtook the UK for 5th place in 2016 because the size of an economy is measured by the value of it's goods and services against an international basket of currencies.


    https://www.ft.com/content/7508bf1e-8a46-11e6-8cb7-e7ada1d123b1

    India is due to knock us into 7th place shortly... And by some accounts, may already have done so.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4056296/India-overtakes-Britain-world-s-sixth-largest-economy-earth-planning-send-130-million-aid-end-2018.html#ixzz4ccTxJnIh
    Old news - that was last year.
    Things have moved on.
    ;)
  • Arklight wrote: »
    You seem rather angry.
    Do you think so?
    Again you are incorrect; I do however dislike misdirection.
    In any case, I would rather be angry and honest ............
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    https://www.ft.com/content/ed2efc7c-1305-11e7-b0c1-37e417ee6c76

    investors have already factored in calculations of the likelihood of a hard Brexit in which Britain trades with the 27 under World Trade Organization rules.

    They have also made their estimates of the damage to UK-based banks if they lose their passporting rights in the single market.

    Meantime, weaker sterling has provided a prize opportunity for policymakers to rebalance the economy away from the debt-fuelled, consumption-driven growth.
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