If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

Get over yourself Jock.

Eh?
Such a helpful post, contributing volumes to the thread.
So ditto.


Meanwhile in news just released and regarding earlier talks in this thread about UK airlines comes this:

Sky News understands that the low-cost carrier's board has pencilled in an April decision on the location of a new air operator's certificate (AOC), which will allow it to continue flying between EU member states.

http://news.sky.com/story/low-cost-airline-easyjet-close-to-landing-post-brexit-eu-base-10814831

CKhalvashi

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

In Germany the regional Saarland election has resulted in a significant win for Merkel's CDU, giving a major boost to Merkel's hopes of another term as Chancellor.
Germans are, it seems, rejecting the centre-left Social Democrats.
https://www.thelocal.de/20170326/merkels-party-wins-german-state-vote-by-large-margin-tv


*please note:*

Despite the delusions of some posters, this is NOT either a pro- or an anti- EU post.
It provides facts only of life elsewhere in Europe.
As I often show.

Right, at your request, ignoring any form of pro- or anti-EU response here.

Actually, she's a good match for Germany, and for a right-leaning candidate, she's extremely centred in politics from what I've seen.

If the Tories were where she is, I'd spend a lot less time disagreeing with decisions they make.

Again, the below isn't aimed directly at the EU, more generally.

A government that is ready to solely assume that a majority want one thing (instead of taking into account the slim minority), without taking a step back, considering all the options and making an informed, sensible decision isn't fit to run a country. This is what our current government have done on a number of occasions, and something that to the best of my knowledge (although I don't follow German politics closely) Merkel has not.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Right, at your request, ignoring any form of pro- or anti-EU response here.

Actually, she's a good match for Germany, and for a right-leaning candidate, she's extremely centred in politics from what I've seen.

If the Tories were where she is, I'd spend a lot less time disagreeing with decisions they make.

Again, the below isn't aimed directly at the EU, more generally.

A government that is ready to solely assume that a majority want one thing (instead of taking into account the slim minority), without taking a step back, considering all the options and making an informed, sensible decision isn't fit to run a country. This is what our current government have done on a number of occasions, and something that to the best of my knowledge (although I don't follow German politics closely) Merkel has not.

Ah.
"and something that to the best of my knowledge (although I don't follow German politics closely) Merkel has not."

You don't count inviting asylum seekers to Germany then?
How about her promise to ban the niqab?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

You don't count inviting asylum seekers to Germany then?

That was one of her finest moments.

She both alleviated a massive humanitarian crisis brewing on Europe's borders and also alleviated the critical shortage of young people Germany has in a move that can only be described as genius.

Yes - she's taken some political flak for it - but not enough to jeopardise her position.

A very wise action by a leader willing to show actual leadership - rather than being a Polls and Daily Mail driven political weathervane like ours have sadly become.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

That was one of her finest moments.

She both alleviated a massive humanitarian crisis brewing on Europe's borders and also alleviated the critical shortage of young people Germany has in a move that can only be described as genius.

Yes - she's taken some political flak for it - but not enough to jeopardise her position.

A very wise action by a leader willing to show actual leadership - rather than being a Polls and Daily Mail driven political weathervane like ours have sadly become.

Oh a really fine moment - which Merkel herself regrets.

Angela Merkel admits she lost control of refugee crisis in Germany and would 'turn back time' if she could

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-refugees-germany-lost-control-crisis-would-turn-back-time-a7320726.html
Very widely reported too BTW.

Also explain why three million are forced to remain in Turkey?
Bribed into being kept there with the EU paying Turkey to keep them?
Why Hungary, Austria, Macedonia and others build walls to keep them out?

vivatifosi

Simon Reeve programme about Turkey tonight - well worth catching on iPlayer if anyone missed. Some interesting observations about refugees.. including interviewing a people trafficker who said that the biggest cause in the reduction in numbers this year will be the closed borders further up the chain rather than anything that Erdogan does/doesn't do. People who are now stuck in Greece paying to get back to Turkey.

Thrugelmir

vivatifosi wrote: »

Simon Reeve programme about Turkey tonight - well worth catching on iPlayer if anyone missed. Some interesting observations about refugees.. including interviewing a people trafficker who said that the biggest cause in the reduction in numbers this year will be the closed borders further up the chain rather than anything that Erdogan does/doesn't do. People who are now stuck in Greece paying to get back to Turkey.

Borders do seem to have a purpose. FOM does have considerable imperfections. Something the European elite seem unable to come to terms with for an unfathomable reason.

Conrad

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But it's worth pointing out that the French National Front are indeed thoroughly linked to Nazi's - and anyone celebrating or being anything other than visibly disgusted by their success in the polls should really have a long hard think about that - .

Le Pens party is supported by millions of ordinary French citizens. Your implicating them in Nazism is typical of vain-glorious, pious, arrogant liberals. Stop placing yourself on a morality pedestal, you fool none but yourself.

Conrad

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Ah.
"and something that to the best of my knowledge (although I don't follow German politics closely) Merkel has not."

You don't count inviting asylum seekers to Germany then?
How about her promise to ban the niqab?

Germany is considering deporting two suspected (not tried) terror suspects both of whom were born in Germany. Hamish and other charlatan Saints would have a field day if this was the UK

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Bulgaria - a large recipient of EU funding and a member since 2007 - has very narrowly voted in a snap election held yesterday (Sunday) in favour of a pro-EU party over a pro-Russian part.
It seems that despite receiving large payments from the EU, very many Bulgarians are not convinced of the benefits of membership.

GERB will now seek to bring about a coalition that will maintain the tight fiscal policies underpinning the lev currency's peg to the euro. There are two more worrying angles to consider: it will likely have to court the United Patriots nationalist alliance which has been associated with some virulent anti-immigrant sentiment; and analysts remain sceptical that any of this will uproot widespread corruption in the EU's poorest member state.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-europe-view-monday-idUKKBN16Y0NP