If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Moby wrote: »

I think he's been reading Harry Potter again. No one I know In London wants Brexit........there's my anecdotal evidence

Reading is good for the brain - you should try it.

I wonder just how many of the 8.7 million-odd population of London you know?
Purely anecdotally, of course.
Because a few parts voted leave, and in a few more parts the vote was really close (like Hounslow and Bromley).
Oh and there is much more to the UK than London; it was a national referendum.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

All these protest marches.
Pro-EU in London and Edinburgh; the "March For Europe" protest drew hundreds.
Yes, Hundreds. (The latest estimate is 1000.)
No, not thousands.
And these "hundreds" from all over Scotland, please note.
Not exactly a great show of support from a country which Sturgeon tries to tell you all really, REALLY wants to remain in the UK.
When it's not even a dreich, dour day.
It's sunny and mild.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15181960.Hundreds_assemble_in_Edinburgh_to__march_for_Europe_/

Thousands protest in London too.
What, not tens of thousands then - or hundreds of thousands if (as we are asked to believe) so many Brits desperately want to remain in the EU? (Update: Organisers ESTIMATE 25,000. From photo's, a very optimistic estimate that is.)
None too convincing an attempt at persuasion, those few thousand IMHO.


Whilst these protest about being taken out of the EU by the UK, in Rome to coincide with the meeting of the 60th anniversary of the EU there are more protests.
Some pro-EU.
And some anti-EU.
Because some Italians are not happy with the EU either.

An ISPOS poll published on Saturday showed just 24 percent of Italians thought the EU brought Italy advantages, while 44 percent said it brought disadvantages. Some 75 percent of people said Italy was irrelevant or had a secondary role within the EU.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-summit-protests-idUKKBN16W0KL?il=0

I have posted before about an increase in anti-EU sentiment across large parts of the Eurozone.
Though please note that I am not suggesting these countries necessarily wish to leave the EU.
Yet the pro-remain camp in these forums especially try to tell us that we are wrong for wanting out of the UK?
More and more it looks like the sensible option.
Because Rome seems to prove again that reform - if it happens - will be almost painfully slow in happening.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

In another attempt at a balanced perspective, here is a report in the Graudian on what a selection of Europeans think about the EU.
Interesting reading though (like much else in the UK media) to be taken with at least a little "pinch of salt".

Europe was a nice idea, but it’s the globalist politics that has killed us – that and the euro. In the rest of the world, other countries can devalue their currency and become competitive. With the euro, we are trapped. Marine Le Pen is right – we should get out of it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/25/nice-idea-but-europeans-on-what-went-wrong-eu

Mortgagefreeman

The 'Unite for Europe' march can hardly be seen as a great success.All they could manage was a few thousand people.

I imagine our friend 'Fantasy island' went to support his Libdem mates. Probably makes a nice change from picking up fares at Stansted.

mayonnaise

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Thousands protest in London too.
What, not tens of thousands then - or hundreds of thousands if (as we are asked to believe) so many Brits desperately want to remain in the EU?

Still, somewhat more succesful than the 100,000 strong People's Army March on the Supreme Court where only half a dozen showed up.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-supreme-court-hearing-article-50-nigel-farage-march-peoples-army-a7456406.html

mayonnaise

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Thousands protest in London too.
What, not tens of thousands then

Yes, tens of thousands then.

Between 25,000 and 100,000 demonstrators are estimated to be attending

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/unite-for-europe-protest-thousands-take-to-streets-in-antibrexit-protest-amid-heightened-security-a3499136.html

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

Yes, tens of thousands then.

Between 25,000 and 100,000 demonstrators are estimated to be attending

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/unite-for-europe-protest-thousands-take-to-streets-in-antibrexit-protest-amid-heightened-security-a3499136.html

17,410,742 minus 100,000 = 17,310,742

The ayes have it, I think the ayes have it.

CKhalvashi

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

I imagine our friend 'Fantasy island' went to support his Libdem mates. Probably makes a nice change from picking up fares at Stansted.

Oh, I didn't realise someone local-ish to where I live with similar political views was on this thread, maybe I know them in real life

My day has been more like this:



So I couldn't attend either.

Conrad

Middle class white people have a last strop.

An era is comming to a close, get the Chapel Down on ice for Wednesday.

Conrad

setmefree2 wrote: »

And my point was that when a.n. other was Fillion I though the French might stay at home as I couldn't see a leftie voting for Fillion - but I think most French voters, of what ever persuasion, will be able to hold their noses and vote for Macron.

I reckon a fair few lefties will go Le Pen, she has a clutch of left leaning policy.

It strikes me France is yearning for change. Macron is just another teflon Tony, nothing much will change under him.