If we vote for Brexit what happens

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Since before the EU referendum I have said that discussions regarding Brexit may prove to be irrelevant due to the very real possibility of the EU as we know it no longer existing before the time at which our departure becomes due.

Now it seems that the BBC's Katya Adler agrees, though her thoughts are based upon the rise of populism and she does not consider other factors (and we know there are many) in the report:

The vote was met with regret across Europe by mainstream voters and politicians alike. But many sentiments behind the UK vote rang loud and true for ordinary Europeans. Anger against the establishment had spread across Europe well before 23 June last year. Brexit can’t be blamed. But the 2008 economic crisis and other pivotal developments can.
The number of people in Europe feeling left behind, disadvantaged and angry ballooned following the financial crash and ensuing euro crisis. Middle-and-working-class families in southern Europe, particularly in Spain and Greece, were devastated. And in the richer north of the continent, even when bank balances weren’t drastically affected, families’ sense of security was.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-02-09/bbcs-europe-editor-katya-adler-the-eu-is-flirting-with-the-flames-of-extinction

wotsthat

David Davis being a !!!!.

I mean, the simple thing is the Lords is a very important institution.

I expect it to do its job and to do its patriotic duty and actually give us the right to go on and negotiate that new relationship (with the EU).

It isn't the 'patriotic duty' of the Lords to support the government no matter what. They're there to check and challenge the actions of the government.

Nothing but nationalistic, 'enemies of the people' bullying tactics.

Sapphire

wotsthat wrote: »

It isn't the 'patriotic duty' of the Lords to support the government no matter what. They're there to check and challenge the actions of the government.

They are there to support our democratic system, which some of them plainly appear not to be doing. They are hardly 'impartial'. :rotfl: And anyone who has a vested interest in remaining in the EU, e.g. those who have EU pensions, like Kinnock and Mendelsshon (I believe), or who have business interests there, shouldn't even be allowed to vote.

To go against Parliament and the people would be unthinkable, and would cause incredible anger in the population. It would also be damaging to our country. We have enough to cope with when it comes to the EU bureaucrats, with their hostile rhetoric and undemocratic diktats. :mad:

We need to get on with finalising our departure with the EU with as little disruption as possible both to us and to other nations in the EU.

Mistral001

Several senior politicians from the other 27 countries have that Brexit will not be a la carte. What happens if that is the case when the Article 50 is triggered and still the case come two years after that. Nothing much we can do.

I think the above will happen. Even if some of the 27 remaining countries want to move ground and give concessions to the UK, I cannot see all of them agreeing. Thus it appears to me inevitable that we will sail on past the two year deadline and then we are out. We will have left the EU. I think this is what they mean by "the cliff". There might be a period of no tariffs or WTO tariffs will be applied on the day we leave and eventually a trade deal will be completed, but I would not bet on when.

padington

Sapphire wrote: »

wotsthat wrote: »

It isn't the 'patriotic duty' of the Lords to support the government no matter what. They're there to check and challenge the actions of the government.

They are there to support our democratic system, which some of them plainly appear not to be doing. They are hardly 'impartial'. :rotfl: And anyone who has a vested interest in remaining in the EU, e.g. those who have EU pensions, like Kinnock and Mendelsshon (I believe), or who have business interests there, shouldn't even be allowed to vote.

To go against Parliament and the people would be unthinkable, and would cause incredible anger in the population. It would also be damaging to our country. We have enough to cope with when it comes to the EU bureaucrats, with their hostile rhetoric and undemocratic diktats. :mad:

We need to get on with finalising our departure with the EU with as little disruption as possible both to us and to other nations in the EU.

Come the summer the will of the majority of the people might well have changed. In two years time aligning with trump might be seen as a stupid path to take by the overwhelming majority of the public.

mrginge

padington wrote: »

Come the summer the will of the majority of the people might well have changed.

Oh well we need another referendum then.

Maybe one every twelve months so we can continue to check the will of the people.

padington

mrginge wrote: »

Oh well we need another referendum then.

Maybe one every twelve months so we can continue to check the will of the people.

Ive got an idea - how about we have a vote every four or five years.

mrginge

padington wrote: »

Ive got an idea - how about we have a vote every four or five years.

but how will we know if the will of the people has changed come summer????

padington

mrginge wrote: »

but how will we know if the will of the people has changed come summer????

The biggest protest ever seen in this country will happen this summer in London.

mrginge

padington wrote: »

Th biggest protest ever seen in this country will happen this summer in London.

Ah ok. Sorry I hadn't realised we now made decisions based on how many people turn up to a protest.

Good to know you're confident that more than 17million will turn up though.

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