If we vote for Brexit what happens

mayonnaise

davomcdave wrote: »

Nope. Now it goes forward for another debate in the Commons and, if passed, goes to the Lords.

Ah ok, thanks.
Then we just need to have this rubber stamped ASAP in both houses and get on with it. Debate is so elitist.

wotsthat

I'm looking forward to us getting a shift on too. It's 7 months since the referendum - that's 7 months of the 4th era of prosperity and 5th industrial age we've missed out on.

davomcdave

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Uh-huh.
Is this the same Goldman Sachs that donated a six-figure sum to back the pro-EU campaign in the referendum?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35366994


In other news I see that The National Institute of Economic and Social Research is today upgrading it's forecast for the UK economy this year.
Not that they have shown much of a propensity for accuracy in their forecasts recently; in August last year they predicted growth for 2016 of 1% - and the actual figure was double that.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-boe-niesr-idUKKBN15G2Y4?il=0

Slower than if the UK had decided to stay in the EU?
Righty-ho.
But still the fastest-growing of the G7 economies.

Yes, that will be the same Goldman Sachs that said that its investment in Britain would fall if it left the EU cutting its investment in Britain as it awaits Britain leaving the EU. It seems that the Goldman Sachs prediction was spot on but you doubt it.

However, the NIESR prediction you believe wholeheartedly despite it have been shown to be wrong.

One supports your world view and you believe it to be a credible source despite it being wrong. The other does not and so you query it despite it being right.

Great logic, love it. You'd enjoy this:

https://www.math.hmc.edu/funfacts/ffiles/10001.1-8.shtml

It's the mathematical 'proof' that 1 = 0.

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

I'm looking forward to us getting a shift on too. It's 7 months since the referendum - that's 7 months of the 4th era of prosperity and 5th industrial age we've missed out on.

Also seven months extra before WW3, so not all bad.

mayonnaise

Also, 7 months at 350 million per week, that's a lot of dosh the NHS has been missing out on.

Mortgagefreeman

Must have a split personality disorder. :rotfl:

Isn't that the Party 'Fantasy Island' supports?

Conrad

By calling for a referendum on the deal, Brussels would have every incentive to offer the worst possible deal so that the British public opted to remain. So see through

Conrad

It's dawned on me that another reason Mrs May cannot reveal a full plan and list of aims at this stage is this could undermine politicians fighting forthcoming elections in France, Holland and Germany thus making our Brexit negotiation that much more difficult.


She has to tread a thin line.

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

So we are burning the bridges


Are we?




We’ll be ‘free’ to trade with the world, they insist, as Trump bellows ‘America First’


We are already one anothers largest investment partners, trading very successfully with NO TRADE DEAL. A trade deal would be little more than a little cherry on top, not at all necessary.


On the other side, we’re reduced to threatening Europe with becoming Singapore West.


I was in Singapore last summer. Lived there previously. Very happy people with an orderly society and very generous state - each citizen gets all sorts of assistance in buying a home, far more than we do.


Where, in all this, are the ‘ordinary people’ that Brexit was supposed to liberate?


Fewer cheap workers coming in incentivises firms to do what they used to do - get into schools and engage with kids, statrt training programmes etc etc. It also means wages can rise with less labout supply (self employed and employed).


Trading with the EU in the volumes we do now PLUS opening up trade globally which the EU currently hampers. Dynamic global relationships. Cheaper currency.


Lessing demand for property


All helps those at the bottom


How will their security and prosperity improve when we’re shredding state spending and lowering high-end taxes to please Trump and to siphon business from Europe?:rotfl:


Prosperity will rise, tax receipts will thus rise

You Brexiteer numpties also need to remember there is no such thing as either a fair or unfair deal, the UK has decided to leave the EU, the EU has every right to do what ever the hell it wants


And hystericals need to understand core EU exporters to us will never self harm, you've never understood this most basic core point


, the UK has no right to anything at all, if the EU decides to bar every import or economic tie to the UK they have every right to do so.


More deluded hysterics

If the EU decides to not sign any deal and the UK has to hard Brexit on WTO rules with no pass porting rights for finance with the subsequent loss of 25% of its GDP and goes into a major recession that's still the UK's fault.


Look at what the City are saying, look at what the CEO of the Stock Exchange is saying, see Setmefree's recent links to articles on what the City REALLY expects


Again, the EU needs unfettered access to the City


AGAIN - MOST UK FIRMS WITH PASSPORTING RIGHTS HAVE NOT BOTHERED USING THEM


'Equivalence' is enjoyed by non EU service exporters, no passports required. Where necessary our service providers can open a satellite office in Dublin or Luxembourg, no hysterics needed



the British Empire is no more!


The fast growing Commonwealth contains 1/3rd of the world citizens, with the Queen at the head
This offers all sorts of leverage and opportunity whilst EU trade continues as is

One feature of the empire was the ability to expand by force and colonise different parts of the world which we did probably more successfully than all of the other European colonialists. Everyone was racing off to kick the crap out of less developed countries and steal all of their resources........but guess what the exploitation option using slaves is no longer available. That is probably a tad of a shock for some of you I know.


Infantile undergrad rant^^




Meanwhile some of the other reliables like New Zealand have been making their own way in the world since the 1970s


Exactly, they managed without the subsidies they lost when we joined the EU, they are a great independent nation making their way in world, with a trade deal with China and others


!

Enjoying your latest triggering


Me in red

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

By calling for a referendum on the deal, Brussels would have every incentive to offer the worst possible deal so that the British public opted to remain. So see through

Relax. That ship has sailed - the public have opted to leave.