If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

norsefox wrote: »

Same old nonsense I'm afraid. Spain has no problem with an independent Scotland that achieves independence through a vote agreed with the UK.

Spain has a problem with a unilateral declaration of independence (see Kosovo etc.), because that's what it faces with Catalonia.

Opposing the membership of Scotland within the EU has precisely zero benefit to Spain - assuming that the vote that takes Scotland out of the EU is one agreed with the UK government.

That is no comment on the likelihood of Scottish independence, or the benefits/pitfalls to either the UK or Scotland, it's a comment on the reality of Spanish foreign policy.

You've missed the key issue entirely. Irrelevant anyway judging by today's news.

NICOLA STURGEON is set to dump the SNP’s long-held aim of an independent Scotland remaining a full EU member state in order to best satisfy her "fetish" for breaking away from the UK

It had previously been thought the SNP’s bid for a Norway-style deal, through membership of the European Economic Area (EEA), would only apply if Scotland remained in the UK.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/760625/Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-ditch-full-EU-membership-claim-second-independence-referendum-Brexit

setmefree2

Switzerland eyeing pro-Brexit trade deal with UK: minister

Switzerland's economy minister said Sunday he wants to have "background" talks with Britain so that a trade deal can be in place as soon as the UK leaves the European Union.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/switzerland-eyeing-pro-brexit-trade-120012096.html

setmefree2

Interesting interview here

BCC: Europe to Remain a Key Export Market

Adam Marshall, director general at the British Chambers of Commerce, discusses his company's report on trade with Europe, how businesses feel about Brexit, how they're planning for it and what could come out of a U.S.-U.K. trade deal. He speaks to Bloomberg's Manus Cranny and Anna Edwards on "Bloomberg Daybreak: Europe." (Source: Bloomberg)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-01-30/bcc-europe-to-remain-a-key-export-market

cogito

cogito wrote: »

Hmmmm. So you think that it's a great idea to pay membership fees to a club that you wouldn't be a full member of and at the same time give up all the money that the Auld Enemy send you under the Barnett Formula.

Yep. That makes sense.

And also, Scotland has been hoping that membership of the EU would result in money being showered on them by the EU. So they would suffer a triple whammy.


And we all know how the Scots are always holding out the begging bowl.

westernpromise

52% of British adults think that UK made the right decision to leave the European Union

http://opinium.co.uk/52-of-british-adults-think-that-uk-made-the-right-decision-to-leave-the-european-union/

StevieJ

westernpromise wrote: »

52% of British adults think that UK made the right decision to leave the European Union

http://opinium.co.uk/52-of-british-adults-think-that-uk-made-the-right-decision-to-leave-the-european-union/

I thought polls were all garbage?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

A report today on the UK's financial services sector explaining why "Brexit is a 'once-in-a-generation opportunity' to design a '21st-century' trade policy which focuses more heavily on emerging markets outside Europe, free from the 'straitjacket' of EU policy":

"The UK is the leading exporter of financial services globally, generating a record high trade surplus in 2015 of $97bn. Around 40% of the UK’s trade surplus in financial services is with Europe. However, over the next 10 – 15 years, 90% of global economic growth is expected to be generated outside Europe and these markets – developed and emerging – must be a priority focus for the country post-Brexit."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-once-in-a-generation-opportunity-to-embrace-emerging-markets-2017-1

setmefree2

Enda Kenny backs Theresa May's 'friction-free' trading goal post-Brexit

Setting out her strategy earlier this month, Mrs May strongly hinted that Britain could leave the European customs union (CU), stating she wanted "frictionless" cross-border trade, but had an "open mind" on whether it should be done through associate membership or a new agreement.
Speaking after talks with the PM in Dublin, Mr Kenny echoed her language, suggesting he would support the strategy during divorce talks.
"Our two governments are agreed that a close and friction-free economic and trading relationship between the Untied Kingdom and the European Union, including Ireland, is in our very best interests," he told a press conference.
"And as the UK prepares for its formal notification under Article 50, we want to see that these deep trading ties between our two countries are recognised and facilitated.
"That will continue to be an absolute priority for my government, not just in our discussions with the British Government, but also with our EU partners as we prepare for the negotiation process on the EU side of the table."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/enda-kenny-backs-theresa-mays-frictionfree-trading-goal-postbrexit-35409812.html

setmefree2

Nafta: First shots in a trade war

Trump’s policies jeopardise a $580bn relationship with the US’s neighbour, but Mexico has a few cards to play in any talks

Wilbur Ross, the president’s nominee for commerce secretary, told a Senate confirmation hearing this month that Mexico’s low minimum wage would be “a very serious topic for conversation”. He added: “One of the original intents [of Nafta] was . . . frankly [to] reduce the gap in productivity-adjusted wages between the two countries. It hasn’t worked that way.”

Salaries in the car industry are as much as six times lower south of the Rio Grande, something that has enabled a division of labour among the Nafta partners within the integrated supply chains that the trade pact has spawned. Components like seat belts and airbags cross the world’s busiest border multiple times as they are transformed into finished goods, scrambling notions of what is Made in USA, Hecho en Mexico or Made in Canada. Mexico exports 80 per cent of its goods to the US, but those exports contain 40 per cent US content.

“It’s not as if Mexico goes away if we wall it off,” says Beto O’Rourke, a Democratic congressman from the Texan border town of El Paso, where one in four jobs relies on trade with Mexico. “At best, we push it into the arms of some other trading partners. At worst, we trigger a destabilising crisis. We really will have a problem if Mexico’s economy collapses.”

Among his incoming administration’s complaints have been the rules that govern how much of a product has to be made within Nafta borders to qualify as duty-free.

The so-called rules of origin were a bone of contention for Mexico and parts of the US auto industry in negotiations for the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership, from which Mr Trump has already withdrawn the US. But since Mexico was browbeaten by the US and Japan into accepting a weaker threshold, the issue is familiar to negotiators on both sides.
Some in Mexico and the US also see a shortcut to renegotiating Nafta in other aspects of the TPP, such as its chapters on ecommerce, labour and the environment. Rather than crippling Nafta, that actually could make it better, Mexico’s government argues.

https://www.ft.com/content/1eb625ae-e47b-11e6-9645-c9357a75844a

setmefree2

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

A report today on the UK's financial services sector explaining why "Brexit is a 'once-in-a-generation opportunity' to design a '21st-century' trade policy which focuses more heavily on emerging markets outside Europe, free from the 'straitjacket' of EU policy":

http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-once-in-a-generation-opportunity-to-embrace-emerging-markets-2017-1

A massive change of tune from TheCityUK, (the main lobbying arm for the financial and associated business services sectors) Indeed, it appears to have suddenly embraced Brexit!