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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the EU is indeed about tariff barriers to the rest of the world and so artificial high prices, but internal free movement of goods, service and people

    And capital
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Free movement of people is one of the reasons we must leave. Once Turkey and the middle east join, the true problems will emerge (although I understand many people want to keep the EU white and christian but eventually that will change)

    Scaremongering.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    Rinoa wrote: »
    We're the Worlds top investment destination for a reason, and it's not because we're in the EU.

    Except it is.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    Purely anectdotal but a couple of weeks ago my elderly mother fell over and it took repeated calls to the ambulance service and it took 1.5hrs for an ambulance to turn up.

    So blame the immigrants????

    You prove to me that all of that all FDI from Europe and the wider world will cease the day after if we voted to leave.

    It will continue if we REMAIN.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    And capital



    Scaremongering.

    so you consider the suggestion that Turkey et al would join the EU as scaremongering ?
    So you do want to keep the EU white and christian otherwise what possible 'threat' is Turkey etc joining?
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I would guess you don't live in one room of a shared flat with little prospect of buying a modest family house in London.

    If my kids,say, choose a way of life that only allows them to live in that way - I would tell them to leave London. London is a a city were you have to be prepared to work hard - it always has been - it's not a place for those who want an easy life. Nobody has to live in London - it's a choice - the rest of the UK is great and the slower pace of life often suits some people better.
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Low unemployment is unrelated to immigration but low wages are.

    Promising people higher wages when actually they probably won't have a job at all is immoral.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    So let's blame it all on immigrants?

    I don't blame individuals for policy failing.

    I consider the high price of accommodation and the low level of space as a supply and demand issue.
    London has a population of about 8 million and over 3 million are foreigners. With a significantly smaller population people could live in larger family sized accommodation at lower cost.
    This would make the people of the UK able to enjoy a higher quality of life.

    I don'ts see an ever increasing population as a good thing: you clearly do.
    I don't see that a increasing proportion of UK industry being foreign owned as a good thing : you clearly do.
    I don't see an increasing proportion of UK generated profits as flowing abroad as a good thing : you clearly do.
    I don't see that an ever increasing tax take on profits flowing abroad is a good thing : you clearly do.

    But we do both agree that Turkey joining the EU is scary.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    so you consider the suggestion that Turkey et al would join the EU as scaremongering ?
    So you do want to keep the EU white and christian otherwise what possible 'threat' is Turkey etc joining?

    There is no chance that Turkey and the middle east will join the EU. So why would you right it if you weren't scaremongering?
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    London has a population of about 8 million and over 3 million are foreigners.

    But we don't care - so why do you? - since you don't live here?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    If my kids,say, choose a way of life that only allows them to live in that way - I would tell them to leave London. London is a a city were you have to be prepared to work hard - it always has been - it's not a place for those who want an easy life. Nobody has to live in London - it's a choice - the rest of the UK is great and the slower pace of life often suits some people better.



    Promising people higher wages when actually they probably won't have a job at all is immoral.

    there is absolutely no evidence that a lower population leads to higher unemployment :
    perhaps provide some economic reasons for your absurd (un) reasoning.

    plenty of countries with lower population that the UK with low unemployment
    plenty of countries with higher population that have higher unemployment

    you are becoming completely irrational
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    But we don't care - so why do you? - since you don't live here?

    I am concerned about the people of the UK.
    You may only consider you own narrow personal self interest but I have a wider perspective.
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