If we vote for Brexit what happens

CKhalvashi

Interesting article in LD Voice.

If an MP was elected on a 3% majority (in my area it would be less than 1%) then he wouldn't be safe at the next election.

http://www.libdemvoice.org/brexit-mandate-theresa-may-should-beware-of-an-expiry-date-52975.html

I wouldn't stand MRLP, but for whoever posted it earlier, there are a lot of policies they were the first to campaign for that are now law; 24 hour drinking, Pet passports etc.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

When he says he wants fair and equitable deals with similarly advanced nations that don't undercut one another wage wise, I personally found this quite easy to understand.

Maybe he's more interested in selling American stuff than British (foreign) stuff. That would be my take but it's anything but clear.

Conrad wrote: »

Making cars in low wage Mexico and flogging them to Americans is not equitable nor responsive to his citizens needs.

How would he know? How do you know?

Usually when a trade is made it's because both sides see an advantage.

Conrad wrote: »

Cars made in the US actually cost no more and equivalent imports, but corporate profits may be dented by having to pay decent wages.

Worth bearing in mind if you're using US focused funds in an ISA as a proxy bet on Trump.

Conrad wrote: »

We're all equally capable and the same under the skin, so Mexicans will have no problem creating their own manufacturing business to replace any losses. China similarly needs to start producing it's own products and services people want to buy and not simply undercutting our steel workers with cheap wages.

Yeah because anyone can find a few hundred billion of new customers just like that.

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

wasn't that exactly what the EU bureaucracy wanted and was fully supported by all the remainers?
so if the brexit UK agrees it, then it will be supported by all you remainers

The NHS is not for sale.

So no, I would not support it.

CLAPTON

CKhalvashi wrote: »

The NHS is not for sale.

So no, I would not support it.

simply something that the holy EU supports

just as the whole EU27 rejects the UK HNS state funding model (free at the point of use).

so at least you have a couple of good things to say about the UK compared to the EU27

progress comes in small steps

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

simply something that the holy EU supports

just as the whole EU27 rejects the UK HNS state funding model (free at the point of use).

so at least you have a couple of good things to say about the UK compared to the EU27

progress comes in small steps

I have always said that the NHS is not for sale.

I've also said that the NHS requires further funding, which doesn't involve putting more money into the privately owned GP services.

gfplux

The_Last_Username wrote: »

You ignore the fact that Ireland and Luxembourg are EU members and thus must stick to EU rules.
Including with corporate tax.

A UK outside the EU will not be bound by such rules.
Vastly different.
Why then "a race to the bottom", since any EU country cannot participate in what you call a "race"; EU rules forbid it.
You cannot have a race with one entrant, can you?

Or is it just a dawning realization that you dislike the possibility of the EU not holding the prime bargaining position that you once thought they held?

You are perfectly correct.
However Britain outside the EU will have to compete with Country's like Singapore, Bermuda, Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Puerto Rico, Delaware, Bahrain, Andorra, Li!chtenstein, Liberia, Monaco, Marshall Islands, Nauru, and Vanuatu.
Sorry the list is not perfect, I am sure there are others. Also my apologies as the list is not in alphabetical order. If it were Britain would come before the Cayman Islands and after Andorra.
My point is there is a lot of competition in the dark world of Tax Havens.

gfplux

Tromking wrote: »

Trump threatening 35% tax on BMW imports into the US via Mexican factories....Ouch!
Perhaps BMW need to build their proposed new factory in the rust-belt instead.

Have you forgotten ALREADY that BMW already have factories building the x lines in the USA.

Conrad

gfplux wrote: »

You are perfectly correct.
However Britain outside the EU will have to compete with Country's like Singapore, Bermuda, Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Puerto Rico, Delaware, Bahrain, Andorra, Li!chtenstein, Liberia, Monaco, Marshall Islands, Nauru, and Vanuatu.
Sorry the list is not perfect, I am sure there are others. Also my apologies as the list is not in alphabetical order. If it were Britain would come before the Cayman Islands and after Andorra.
My point is there is a lot of competition in the dark world of Tax Havens.

None the less the large and reputable safe haven UK as a low tax destination would draw many corporates, just look how well little Ireland has done in this regard.

I pointed out one of Hammonds very first utterances as Chancellor was dangling the competetive corporation tax threat. Surprisingly few people seem aware he said this.

The_Last_Username

gfplux wrote: »

You are perfectly correct.
However Britain outside the EU will have to compete with Country's like Singapore, Bermuda, Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Puerto Rico, Delaware, Bahrain, Andorra, Li!chtenstein, Liberia, Monaco, Marshall Islands, Nauru, and Vanuatu.
Sorry the list is not perfect, I am sure there are others. Also my apologies as the list is not in alphabetical order. If it were Britain would come before the Cayman Islands and after Andorra.
My point is there is a lot of competition in the dark world of Tax Havens.

You really are just clutching at straws, aren't you?

Because NOW the UK whilst IN the EU competes with those countries just the same.
Read the thread.
Because already McDonalds, Avon and a few others have said that they will use the UK as a base.
Are you seriously suggesting that "incentives" will not lure more?

mrginge

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Interesting article in LD Voice.

If an MP was elected on a 3% majority (in my area it would be less than 1%) then he wouldn't be safe at the next election.

http://www.libdemvoice.org/brexit-mandate-theresa-may-should-beware-of-an-expiry-date-52975.html

I wouldn't stand MRLP, but for whoever posted it earlier, there are a lot of policies they were the first to campaign for that are now law; 24 hour drinking, Pet passports etc.

Sorry fella, I'd love to read the link, but I'd rather not corrupt their stats by doubling this months hit count.