If we vote for Brexit what happens

ruggedtoast

Pound plummets to another new low. Looking like parity with the Euro is on the way.

If its parity with the euro and then less than the euro, will Brexits finally begin to understand what they have done?

Masomnia

Moby wrote: »

Especially when they get hammered by Brexit:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/15/hard-brexit-means-retiring-later-britons-warned

I think 'deep cuts to immigration' are unlikely. But we will have to see I suppose.

setmefree2

Conrad wrote: »

If Mrs May hasn't got us out well before the GE she knows this would be deemed a signal failure to deliver on a promise (Brexit means Brexit etc) and thus would lose voters.

Apparently Trump wants a deal done in 180 days - I don't think the UK are going to let the EU drag negotiations out for too long....though Farage is talking about 3 months....

setmefree2

In her speech tomorrow, Mrs May will reiterate her priorities that Britain must regain control over immigration, and end the supremacy of the European Court of Justice.

But sources say she will add “other priorities” to the list.

For the City, she is thought to envisage a deal being struck within two years followed by a longer “implementation period” to protect firms from a cliff edge.

Some in the Square Mile hoped for a temporary deal to allow a longer phase for negotiations but this is seen by senior Tories as a delay on Brexit.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-may-feels-in-position-of-strength-ahead-of-brexit-negotiations-a3441501.html

Herzlos

leveller2911 wrote: »

:rotfl: You assume that the EU will exist in a generation.........

It won't.......:D

Something will, and I'm pretty confident that in a generation we're going to want back into whatever it is.

setmefree2

Donald Trump takes swipe at EU as ‘vehicle for Germany’

President-elect stokes European fears for the future of transatlantic alliance

Mr Trump told Mr Gove: “You look at the European Union and it’s Germany. Basically a vehicle for Germany. That’s why I thought the UK was so smart in getting out.”

https://www.ft.com/content/1f7c6746-db75-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce

Ain't that the truth - though, nobody (else) likes to say it.

Love this bit.

He also revealed that Mr Trump’s team had called EU leaders to ask “what country is to leave next”.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

We are one another's largest investment partners, I envisage a deal will be built out of this existing synergy.

True, but we're also going to be dealing with a Trump administration, and the only thing he seems to hate more than foreigners getting money is windfarms spoiling the views on his golf courses.

He's talking about massive import taxes on non-US produced stuff, so why wouldn't that apply to us?

If we were talking about a deal with Obama I'd agree with you, but not with Trump. I mean, have a look at how he conducts any of his business deals. Do we really want to sign up to be on the other end of something like that?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Herzlos wrote: »

True, but we're also going to be dealing with a Trump administration, and the only thing he seems to hate more than foreigners getting money is windfarms spoiling the views on his golf courses.

He's talking about massive import taxes on non-US produced stuff, so why wouldn't that apply to us?

If we were talking about a deal with Obama I'd agree with you, but not with Trump. I mean, have a look at how he conducts any of his business deals. Do we really want to sign up to be on the other end of something like that?

Have a read of this:

The U.S. could seek bilateral trade deals with European countries behind the back of “a certain bureaucratic organization called the European Union,” according to the man tipped to be Donald Trump’s ambassador in Brussels. Any EU member country that struck such a deal would have to leave the bloc but Theodore Malloch, a university professor, implied that Trump would not be concerned about the diplomatic consequences.

http://www.politico.eu/article/us-may-lure-more-countries-out-of-eu-says-likely-trump-envoy/

Whatever happens, the INTENT is clear.
Can you with honestly with any degree of positivity say not one country would be even tempted?

BTW, whatever remains of the EU in two years time - if anything at all - will in all probability be very different to what exists today.
There are too many major problems bubbling close to the surface which the EU have been "can-kicking" for too long - look back in this thread for some examples.

Herzlos

I don't follow, why would any country be tempted with trading bloc access for US access, why they most likely share multiple borders with the bloc?

It's definitely a given that the EU will be completely different in 2/20 years time, but are we best being part of that change and leading it from the front, or asking to be let back in once it's all happened? Not that it matters, we've taken ourselves out of any EU planning so will just need to put up with whatever they give us.

You do raise a good point though - any bilateral deal with the US will probably involve some equivalent of the TTIP deal that the EU sank. The one that will allow private US health companies for suing the UK government for hindering their profits?

setmefree2

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Have a read of this:

Quote:
The U.S. could seek bilateral trade deals with European countries behind the back of “a certain bureaucratic organization called the European Union,” according to the man tipped to be Donald Trump’s ambassador in Brussels. Any EU member country that struck such a deal would have to leave the bloc but Theodore Malloch, a university professor, implied that Trump would not be concerned about the diplomatic consequences.

http://www.politico.eu/article/us-may-lure-more-countries-out-of-eu-says-likely-trump-envoy/

We should definitely start crafting trade deals and not wait two years. Seriously, what are the EU going to do about it?