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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    Something will, and I'm pretty confident that in a generation we're going to want back into whatever it is.

    I agree there will be "something" but as to whether we going to want to go back in is in the lap of the Gods.

    If its a "Common Market" then yeah I could be persuaded...

    Anything else just aint gonna happen.:)
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »

    You do raise a good point though - any bilateral deal with the US will probably involve some equivalent of the TTIP deal that the EU sank. The one that will allow private US health companies for suing the UK government for hindering their profits?

    wasn't that exactly what the EU bureaucracy wanted and was fully supported by all the remainers?
    so if the brexit UK agrees it, then it will be supported by all you remainers
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Hasn't Trump just threatened Toyota with import tariffs and bullied a US car maker into cancelling investment in Mexico?

    Yet he's prioritising deals to increase imports from Europe? Those bells you can hear are my other one being pulled.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    We should definitely start crafting trade deals and not wait two years. Seriously, what are the EU going to do about it?

    Probably best to wait until we know whether we're staying in the custom union or not first. Only 7 months since the referendum so we might find out any month now.

    I'd prefer they follow the rules rather than ignore them as and when it suits.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Herzlos wrote: »
    He's talking about massive import taxes on non-US produced stuff, so why wouldn't that apply to us?
    Did you get an answer on this one? :)
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,943 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    wasn't that exactly what the EU bureaucracy wanted and was fully supported by all the remainers?
    so if the brexit UK agrees it, then it will be supported by all you remainers

    The EU seemed to be more against it than the UK were, plus the EU has a lot more clout than the UK so I can see it being something we'd need to do.
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Hasn't Trump just threatened Toyota with import tariffs and bullied a US car maker into cancelling investment in Mexico?
    35% has been banded about for an import tariff coming from Mexico.
    Yet he's prioritising deals to increase imports from Europe? Those bells you can hear are my other one being pulled.

    Maybe he's only going to punish Mexico, as he really doesn't seem to like Mexicans. Maybe he'll put huge tariffs on Mexican produced stuff but go tariff free for EU/Canada?
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Did you get an answer on this one? :)

    I got about as much as I expected :D
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    The EU seemed to be more against it than the UK were, plus the EU has a lot more clout than the UK so I can see it being something we'd need to do.

    the eu wanted to agree it.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Hasn't Trump just threatened Toyota with import tariffs and bullied a US car maker into cancelling investment in Mexico?

    Yet he's prioritising deals to increase imports from Europe? Those bells you can hear are my other one being pulled.




    When he says he wants fair and equitable deals with similarly advanced nations that don't undercut one another wage wise, I personally found this quite easy to understand.


    Making cars in low wage Mexico and flogging them to Americans is not equitable nor responsive to his citizens needs.


    Cars made in the US actually cost no more and equivalent imports, but corporate profits may be dented by having to pay decent wages.


    We're all equally capable and the same under the skin, so Mexicans will have no problem creating their own manufacturing business to replace any losses. China similarly needs to start producing it's own products and services people want to buy and not simply undercutting our steel workers with cheap wages.
  • Oh look, the IMF has raised it's forecast for UK growth ........ again.
    The IMF now expects the UK economy to grow by 1.5% this year, up by 0.4 percentage points compared to its previous forecast in October.
    http://news.sky.com/story/imf-upgrades-uk-after-better-than-expected-growth-following-brexit-vote-10731194
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    edited 16 January 2017 at 5:21PM
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    We should definitely start crafting trade deals and not wait two years. Seriously, what are the EU going to do about it?




    Another remoaner fallacy is to claim we must wait like a good dog before being given permission to do things, after all 'it's the rules' lol. So lame.


    France, Italy, Poland, Hungary and others flout the rules, so what? France deported Roma communities enmass, no lefty ooman rights trial, no years of hand-wringing, they just rounded troublesome communities up and shipped them off in the night. No punishment from Brussels of any consequence.
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