If we vote for Brexit what happens

CKhalvashi

Conrad wrote: »

If I was paid a set amount by Govt come rain or shine it would alter my absolute resolve to provide the customer outcomes expected, often against great odds. When money is absolutely on the line it alters everything.

My Dad was a Civil Servant, the waste was astounding

Good for him.

It doesn't mean that others working within the government are quite so lucky.

Matt_L wrote: »

Couldn't ask for more really, nice clean break...

And the battle is still far from over, there are many details to sort out first

Matt_L

TM will outline her plan: remoaners will protest.
A50 Gets voted for and is triggered.
TM will get a great deal but remoaners continue to moan..
Remoaning Lords threaten to do all they can to block or delay Brexit but realise that in doing so the UK will end up leaving anyway but with absolutely nothing as the 2 years will be up so they accept the democratic voice of the people..
Great Britain once again becomes Great......
Long live the Queen.....

CKhalvashi

It was a vote for parliamentary scrutiny and the proper legislative process being followed as advised by the High Court and will be confirmed by the Supreme Court.

Many laws, regulations and due processes need to be followed before A50 can be invoked, and there is no democratic mandate to attempt to sidestep Parliament and the Lords in ensuring that the rights of British citizens and UK residents are duly and fairly upheld.

Oh, and please learn how to spell 'remainers', your lack of skills in this area seriously let you down and diminish any credibility to any point you're trying to make

Conrad

Where was Gina Miller when we were handing competencies over to Brussels, diluting parliamentary democracy?

Authoritarian 'liberals' are happy as long as they are in charge. They could not win a democratic vote in spite of the entire Establishment being on thier side, and so they invoke the Courts to try and once more ensure thier icy grip on power remains in tact.

Leave won by landslide when you allow for the fact the entire Establishment and Govt of the day campaigned to remain.

In any re-run the Leave vote would be overwhelming as much of that project fear nonsense has been spent and discredited.

68.8% of counting areas voted Leave. Most of England. I would think the English would revolt and demand English soverignty should the manipulative terrified Remainers over turn the decision to leave.

ruggedtoast

Conrad wrote: »

Where was Gina Miller when we were handing competencies over to Brussels, diluting parliamentary democracy?

Authoritarian 'liberals' are happy as long as they are in charge. They could not win a democratic vote in spite of the entire Establishment being on thier side, and so they invoke the Courts to try and once more ensure thier icy grip on power remains in tact.

Leave won by landslide when you allow for the fact the entire Establishment and Govt of the day campaigned to remain.

In any re-run the Leave vote would be overwhelming as much of that project fear nonsense has been spent and discredited.

68.8% of counting areas voted Leave. Most of England. I would think the English would revolt and demand English soverignty should the manipulative terrified Remainers over turn the decision to leave.

English sovereignty is what this is basically about. The divide that we have though, if that half of us don't care one whit about English nationalism, waving flags, banging biscuit tins and hanging the Royal Baby tea towels out of our windows.

Faced with all that carp, I am European. You can stick your "Great Britain" with its legacy of African concentration camps, imperialist brutality, three day weeks, Cathy Come Home grinding poverty, and right wing social engineering - right where the sun does not shine.

I don't want to go back to that and if you people think that is whats going to happen post Brexit you are going to be very disappointed.

ruggedtoast

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Are Nationalised industries any better? Certainly weren't in the UK. Though you'll have no knowledge as well before your time.

Nor is the NHS efficient.

The publicly run rail operators outperformed the private companies they replaced by a considerable margin, until the Tories dissolved them to hand the franchises back over to their money grabbing mates.

State industries work very well in Europe. So well that they own a lot of our industries and allow us to subsidise them.

The armed forces, to my knowledge are not considered ineffective and as far as I know Theresa May hasn't yet found a way to privatise them and make them wear corporate logos over their combat fatigues.

The problem with you lot is you are mesmerised by your own failures in the 70s and 80s and assume that because boomers apparently couldn't run a state run p- up in a public sector brewery, that no one else can.

I think we are well aware that the boomers were not capable of providing the UK with a government that could run any public services during this period.

But times have changed, people have changed, and politics is changing.

Quite what you all expect from Brexit is beyond me. You are desperate to return the UK to a past that you all claim was awful.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ruggedtoast wrote: »

English sovereignty is what this is basically about. The divide that we have though, if that half of us don't care one whit about English nationalism, waving flags, banging biscuit tins and hanging the Royal Baby tea towels out of our windows.

Faced with all that carp, I am European. You can stick your "Great Britain" with its legacy of African concentration camps, imperialist brutality, three day weeks, Cathy Come Home grinding poverty, and right wing social engineering - right where the sun does not shine.

I don't want to go back to that and if you people think that is whats going to happen post Brexit you are going to be very disappointed.

Your recent ban has improved your humour I see.

"European" my arris - and all mouth as usual; if you are such a fan of Europe and so anti-British why have you not voted with your feet?
At least some of the pro-EU posters on here have been honest enough in their adoration that they have done so.

Not you though.
No, you prefer it would appear to remain and live a comfortable British life and - worse still - partake of the great British pastime of grumbling about what a great life you really have.
I'm not sure it's worse than grumbling about the weather though Toastie.

No wonder your posts are so bilious; it must be torture for you, living in the UK.

ruggedtoast

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Your recent ban has improved your humour I see.

"European" my arris - and all mouth as usual; if you are such a fan of Europe and so anti-British why have you not voted with your feet?
At least some of the pro-EU posters on here have been honest enough in their adoration that they have done so.

Not you though.
No, you prefer it would appear to remain and live a comfortable British life and - worse still - partake of the great British pastime of grumbling about what a great life you really have.
I'm not sure it's worse than grumbling about the weather though Toastie.

No wonder your posts are so bilious; it must be torture for you, living in the UK.

Yes you lot would like that wouldn't you?

All the people who don't agree with you can be expelled on trains, alongside all the foreigners. Then you can all be proud of being British on "your" island. Watching reruns of the Queens Speech and rattling your biscuit tins above your head.

If only people would just see things your way or leave altogether. Its not much to ask is it?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yes you lot would like that wouldn't you?

All the people who don't agree with you can be expelled on trains, alongside all the foreigners. Then you can all be proud of being British on "your" island. Watching reruns of the Queens Speech and rattling your biscuit tins above your head.

If only people would just see things your way or leave altogether. Its not much to ask is it?

I note that you did not even attempt to answer the question.
To remind you:

why have you not voted with your feet?

You're the anti-British one; there was no suggestion or even hint of deportation.
You hate it?
Then why stay?
Simple question.

ruggedtoast

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

I note that you did not even attempt to answer the question.
To remind you:


You're the anti-British one; there was no suggestion or even hint of deportation.
You hate it?
Then why stay?
Simple question.

The point that you are missing, all of you actually quite spectacularly - is that your vision of patriotism is not the same as ours. And you do not in any way have a monopoly on patriotism because you have cornered the market in jingoism.

The Britain that I live in, that I am proud of, is inclusive, global, educated, welcoming and tolerant. And I am not going to abandon it to you.

I think you will find over the coming years that a great many people feel the same.