If we vote for Brexit what happens

mrginge

CLAPTON wrote: »

one might say that if a majority of scots voted for exit, then Nicola's case for the legitimacy of a new Iscotland referendum would be undermined

Well exactly, that's why her only option is to support remain.

But i doubt she'll be putting too much effort in.

CLAPTON

mrginge wrote: »

Well exactly, that's why her only option is to support remain.

But i doubt she'll be putting too much effort in.

makes no sense to me

Sapphire

setmefree2 wrote: »

I bet you love the Queen and The Royal Family and all the Earls, etc,etc. none of whom were voted for by the British people and who are in fact German.

Cognitive Dissonance.

I don't love them – I don't know them. Why even suggest this? (Is this an attempt to goad me – again – by suggesting that I've said something that I haven't?) They are, however, part of British history, with the Queen fulfilling a symbolic role that is respected around the world (though apparently not here, by some) – and I do value the achievements of the West, which have been reached at great cost and are in danger of being destroyed for some dystopian vision of a cultural marxist world that will benefit only a super-rich elite. It appears that this is what some wish to impose on future generations. Go ahead. I'll still be voting for out, though.:T

Thrugelmir

CLAPTON wrote: »

makes no sense to me

Makes perfect sense to me.

Cameron has passed her the poisoned chalice of division. Tories are allowed a free vote. No chance SNP will.

BobQ

Rinoa wrote: »

Canadian firms requiring a special license to supply Slovakian fish farms?

Canadian firms can't provide funerals in Sweden?

If those are the best examples of exemptions it just shows how good the rest of the deal is. As the EU document states this deal will remove 99% of customs duties on non agricultural products.

And Canada won't pay the EU a penny in contributions and no free movement for EU citizens.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/david-bannerman-mep/eu-referendum-brexit_b_9346348.html

If a Brexited UK can get the terms claimed and not contribute to the EU in any way fine. But it does seem to be too good to be true.

Presumably the EFTA nations will be renegotiating this kind of deal and Switzerland too?

BobQ

antrobus wrote: »

See, I told you that trade agreements involve rather 'mundane issues'. And there is also a quota for industrial cheese. I did not make that up.

That's the kind of thing that matters in trade agrements. Norway's price for letting Croatia into the EEA was a bigger quota for picked herrings or something similar.

No, it illustrates how difficult and time consuming it is to negotiate a trade agreement with anyone.

There appear to be lots of quotas on other foodstuffs too.

BobQ

While the Brexit advocates contemplate the Canadian like trade deal they hope to conclude, I found this in the Toronto Star a revealing insight into how UK and Cameron are seen from Canada.

Brexit on the highway to disaster:

Britons inclined to end their country’s membership in the European Union in a referendum set for June 23 have about 16 weeks to come to their senses.

An EU without Britain would weaken both. It would also hurt the West by diminishing the EU’s vitality as an export market; fracturing its diplomatic and military prowess; and diminishing its power as an ally in the fight against terrorism.

That Vladimir Putin, thief of Crimea and Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad’s only friend in the world, is the sole leader encouraging a “Brexit” should tell Britons all they need know about the folly of quitting a 43-year mutually beneficial association with their EU allies.

It goes on

The Euroskeptics actually believe that Britain needs the EU less than the Continent needs the U.K.

It’s the other way around. The EU takes 45 per cent of Britain’s exports, while Britain buys a puny 10 per cent of its imports from the EU. As British financial markets woke up to the possibility that Britain might quit the union, the British pound fell to its lowest level since 2009.

Cut off from its integration with the European financial system, London’s role as a gateway to Europe would wither. Frankfurt, already the de facto fiscal-policy capital of the EU, could eclipse London in commercial finance as well, given its centre-stage role and location within the EU.

Of Cameron it says

This sorry state of affairs was manufactured largely by one man, British PM David Cameron. .........Britain’s painfully slow economic recovery accounts in large degree for today’s British discontent generally, and with immigrants in particular.

And it was Cameron who promised Britons this wholly unnecessary EU referendum, for reasons of political self-preservation, in order to broker a peace between Europhiles and Europhobes in his divided Tory party.

What Cameron now faces, as he champions the status quo, is the breakup of his country. Scotland, Ulster and Wales generally support continued EU membership. Scotland is already agitating for another referendum on Scottish independence if Britain quits the EU.

Writing in the pro-Tory Daily Telegraph of London, columnist Philip Johnston recently said, “In David Cameron’s worst nightmares he cannot have conceived he might preside over both Britain’s withdrawal from the EU and the break-up of the Union.”

thestar.com/business/2016/03/04/brexit-on-the-highway-to-disaster-olive.html

It would be laughable if it were not so serious.

Generali

BobQ wrote: »

While the Brexit advocates contemplate the Canadian like trade deal they hope to conclude, I found this in the Toronto Star a revealing insight into how UK and Cameron are seen from Canada
Of Cameron it says



thestar.com/business/2016/03/04/brexit-on-the-highway-to-disaster-olive.html

It would be laughable if it were not so serious.

The free trade dealwith Canada isn't the deal that's presented by Brexitiers. It has over 1200 pages of not-free trade exclusions listed.

I_Love_comps

http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/blogs/552157/brexit-decoded-what-it-means-and-how-it-could-affect-you.html?utm_content=buffer51118&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

This is a link from Marie Claire Magazine-which raises some good points for staying in Europe.

Tromking

BobQ wrote: »

It would be laughable if it were not so serious.

I agree.
A bit of post-colonial baggage with this chap it seems.