If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

He is vile, a toad. Hopefully the threat of being personally sued for slander in 2017 will take the shine off his festive baubles this Christmas.

Maybe Clapton, Conrad and the other lot can have a whip round for him. Brexiteers are very generous people.

I'ld certainly contribute more that a measely £5 if some-one would take out a court case against the support Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott , Livingstone etc gave to the murdering IRA
but no leftie crowd funding there and the rest of us value free speeech too much.

TrickyTree83

mayonnaise wrote: »

Not sure if there's a legal case against Farage.



It's vile, obnoxious and divisive drivel alright, but the guy needs to come up regularly with something new to rekindle the admiration from the likes of Clapton, Tricky, Conrad, et al...

What he said about the Hope Not Hate organisation may well be wrong, may well be something he can be castigated over. But what Brendan Cox was saying is incorrect, what Farage said about Merkel is correct.

TrickyTree83

Moby wrote: »

Alright then smartpants how exactly was Merkel going to check out a huge stream of refugees in the context of that emergency so that she was going to be able to tell the genuine case from the potential terrorist? I'm sure using your years and years of experience working in security and counter terrorism you can enlighten us all?

The EU should have done one of:

1. Put them in a holding camp until vetted, failure to be vetted results in repatriation to a neighbouring country whilst sending financial aid to the country taking them in.

2. Return them straight away to a neighbouring country and send that country financial aid.

It did neither, and finds itself in a right mess and is paying the Turks to act as the holding camp, which they're now using to twist the arm of the EU. The EU bureaucrats are profligate failures.

TrickyTree83

Moby wrote: »

....beyond the reach of reason and lacking in common decency. I see a young Pakistani man, (asylum seeker) was arrested just after the incident in a park near the market. He was released when the authorities realised he had nothing to do with it! The likes of Islamic State etc rely on disgusting human beings like Farage to sow their messages of hate so that we are divided....then the likes of idiots on these threads lap it up like a herd of cows at the water trough;)

It was all so predictable...blame Merkel she let the immigrants in! Now we know why Hitler got into power!

Turns out not to be the Pakistani but a Tunisian man is now being sought in connection with the attack.

http://news.sky.com/story/berlin-attack-tunisian-man-identified-as-suspect-from-truck-documents-10703902

Occam's Razor.

"... the simplest hypothesis proposed as an explanation of phenomena is more likely to be the true one than is any other available hypothesis, that its predictions are more likely to be true than those of any other available hypothesis, and that it is an ultimate a priori epistemic principle that simplicity is evidence for truth."

Heads in what trough was that? The one full of evidence and truth rather than dogma and rhetoric? I'm thankful I take mine from the former.

wotsthat

Rinoa wrote: »

Japanese companies spend $35Bn this year buying up UK companies, up from $9.5Bn last year. How's that for post-brexit confidence?

So c$1bn of dividends heading from the UK to Japan next year compared to c$0.3bn this year?

Whilst us armchair economists are arguing about the realities of project fear the smart money (I hope) is piling in at knock down prices.

Brits doing what they do best. Creating companies which can be sold to foreigners. Long may it continue.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Brits doing what they do best. Creating companies which can be sold to foreigners. Long may it continue.

would you like to provide evidence to support that we are creating more companies (by value) than we are selling overseas?

the overseas account seems to show net foreign holding (balance of what the UK hold overseas to what foreigners hold here) seems to be declining, our foreign debts risings and the net flow of dividends changing unfavourably.
All bad news long term and for future generations.

Rinoa

wotsthat wrote: »

So c$1bn of dividends heading from the UK to Japan next year compared to c$0.3bn this year?

Whilst us armchair economists are arguing about the realities of project fear the smart money (I hope) is piling in at knock down prices.

Brits doing what they do best. Creating companies which can be sold to foreigners. Long may it continue.

Share prices have soared since Brexit so your knock-down prices jibe looks rather misplaced.

And of course foreign owned companies have always bought UK firms just as our companies have bought abroad.

I guess it's annoying though when, despite continued doom laden forecasts, the reality is somewhat different. Others see Post-Brexit UK as perfectly workable and are queuing up to buy a slice of UK PLC.

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

Japanese companies spend $35Bn this year buying up UK companies, up from $9.5Bn last year. How's that for post-brexit confidence?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/japanese-investment-and-ma-sales-in-uk-despite-brexit-quit-talks-2016-12

A large chunk of that was ARM, a major tech IP company, to a Japanese phone company that uses ARM designs. It's not likely to result in many new UK jobs, but at least it's not reliant on EU access.

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

Point is that smart Japanese businessmen clearly see a prosperous UK post brexit. Somehow I trust their vision more than yours, Hamish, mayo et al.

Perhaps they're thinking "Well, we're not in the EU and we do just fine"

No, they see an investment opportunity whilst the assets are cheap. They might just want IP or to asset strip.

Rinoa

Herzlos wrote: »

No, they see an investment opportunity whilst the assets are cheap. They might just want IP or to asset strip.

Pure conjecture. Show us some facts.