If we vote for Brexit what happens

mayonnaise

Not sure if there's a legal case against Farage.

"Well, of course, he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox, he backs organisations like Hope Not Hate, who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful but actually pursue violent and very undemocratic means."

It's vile, obnoxious and divisive drivel alright, but the guy needs to come up regularly with something new to rekindle the admiration from the likes of Clapton, Tricky, Conrad, et al...

Tromking

ruggedtoast wrote: »

If you want to understand why Germany is ideologically more accommodating toward immigration than other countries, I suggest you look at some European history. You might want to start with the 1930s.

If Merkel is guilty of anything it is of failing to use Germany's influence to offer robust opposition to Britain and America's apocalyptically incompetent imperialist military abuse of the Middle East. A strategy that has led to the fundamentalism and stream of refugees that you and the other UKIPers are getting so hot and bothered about.

If you're suggesting that the current political class and the wider population in Germany are haunted by their fascist past and their resultant guilt complex affects their world view now, then I make you right.
The irony of course is that the solace they found in 1930's style nationalism is just as dangerous for democracy as their new 21st century mantra of a federal Europe.
We're getting out just at the right time, although you're too dull to realise that yet.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

Not sure if there's a legal case against Farage.



It's vile, obnoxious and divisive drivel alright, but the guy needs to come up regularly with something new to rekindle the admiration from the likes of Clapton, Tricky, Conrad, et al...

sadly your constant bigotry is part of the problem of anger and hate in the country: if you have a point to make about about an organisation you admire then do so and enlighten us all but you can do it without lying about me.

Rinoa

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Sue Nigel Farage!


Yes!

https://donate.hopenothate.org.uk/page/contribute/farage-to-court

I can't think of a better cause to donate £5 to before Christmas, and in fact, I already have.

Hmmm. Their tolerance didn't last long did it.

It's almost as if they hate him. Surely not!

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The only thing you can infer from this is that smart Japanese businessmen (and women) clearly believe that if they buy these companies they will make more money at some point than the acquisitions cost them.

I am fundamentally more interested in the UK as a whole than the financial happiness of the Japanese. People who are buying up our assets due to the pre Christmas price slash that you Brexiteers foisted on us. (A decision that virtually no one in Business, including those bought up companies you are so happy about, actually wants).

I guess your problem with normal trade, is that they aren't white, christian europeans.

ruggedtoast

Tromking wrote: »

If you're suggesting that the current political class and the wider population in Germany are haunted by their fascist past and their resultant guilt complex affects their world view now, then I make you right.
The irony of course is that the solace they found in 1930's style nationalism is just as dangerous for democracy as their new 21st century mantra of a federal Europe.
We're getting out just at the right time, although you're too dull to realise that yet.

Yes stupid old Remainers. Thank goodness we have you sparky Brexiteers leading the way.

Without the EU holding you back it will breathtaking seeing what you can achieve.

ruggedtoast

mayonnaise wrote: »

Not sure if there's a legal case against Farage.



It's vile, obnoxious and divisive drivel alright, but the guy needs to come up regularly with something new to rekindle the admiration from the likes of Clapton, Tricky, Conrad, et al...

He is vile, a toad. Hopefully the threat of being personally sued for slander in 2017 will take the shine off his festive baubles this Christmas.

Maybe Clapton, Conrad and the other lot can have a whip round for him. Brexiteers are very generous people.

Tromking

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yes stupid old Remainers. Thank goodness we have you sparky Brexiteers leading the way.

Without the EU holding you back it will breathtaking seeing what you can achieve.

You're right in that it depends on how much faith you have in the UK to go it alone. One of the reasons I voted out was to put pressure on our elected reps. It's been a joy to witness Remainiac and Brexiteer MP's alike having to contemplate life outwith the EU.

Moby

ruggedtoast wrote: »

If you think terrorism is caused by immigration then you are beyond the reach of reason.

....beyond the reach of reason and lacking in common decency. I see a young Pakistani man, (asylum seeker) was arrested just after the incident in a park near the market. He was released when the authorities realised he had nothing to do with it! The likes of Islamic State etc rely on disgusting human beings like Farage to sow their messages of hate so that we are divided....then the likes of idiots on these threads lap it up like a herd of cows at the water trough;)

It was all so predictable...blame Merkel she let the immigrants in! Now we know why Hitler got into power!

Moby

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Quite a segway into something remotely related to my post that you think you can attack me on, wrong again. You're making a habit of this.

What has the decision not to check people coming into the country got to do with World War 2? I'm well aware of their culture of guilt from the classroom and into wider society, it's a contributory factor to their current predicament but the ultimate responsibility is with Merkel and her government to ensure the safety of the German people - they failed.

Alright then smartpants how exactly was Merkel going to check out a huge stream of refugees in the context of that emergency so that she was going to be able to tell the genuine case from the potential terrorist? I'm sure using your years and years of experience working in security and counter terrorism you can enlighten us all?