If we vote for Brexit what happens

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Another interesting tidbit; it seems that - from 1.2 million seeking assylum in Germany over the past two years - only 34,000 have found work in Germany in the last 12 months.

The government assessment was considerably more downbeat than a report by the Kiel Institute for the World Economy published last week, which suggested that by the end of 2018, more refugees will be employed than out of work.

http://www.thelocal.de/20161219/so-far-only-34000-refugees-have-found-jobs

Rinoa

gfplux wrote: »

I am Looking forward to some good British economic news. There should be some today as Britain prepares to exit the EU.

Japanese companies spend $35Bn this year buying up UK companies, up from $9.5Bn last year. How's that for post-brexit confidence?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/japanese-investment-and-ma-sales-in-uk-despite-brexit-quit-talks-2016-12

ruggedtoast

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

You and Brendan may not like him, but if he's right about Merkel's open door policy leading to the importing of migrants (not refugees) who already do, or will eventually wish to harm German citizens where does the fault lie?

I'm not going to stand idly by and watch people whitewash the truth on topics like this anymore just to re-iterate how much they dislike Farage. Pick anyone you don't like, pick the person you dislike the most in the world, then imagine they told you the sky is blue and water is wet. Are they wrong because you dislike them? No. Cox seems to think that you can't blame politicians for mistakes they make because of what happened to his wife, wrong. Harsh to say out loud, but he is wrong. And Farage in his assessment of how Germany will view the multiple terrorist attacks they've been subjected to over the past 12 months is correct. Merkel will be remembered for the open door policy, for and the attacks that followed, it's the thing that will come first to peoples minds when they hear her name in 20 years time, in the same way Iraq is with Tony Blair.

If you think terrorism is caused by immigration then you are beyond the reach of reason.

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

If you think terrorism is caused by immigration then you are beyond the reach of reason.

That's not what Farage was saying was it. Nor what I believe, or what actually happened during the open door policy.

You can bend the truth to appease yourself and those who already believe such warped arguments, but to those who can actually accept the reality of the truth can clearly see that amongst the migrants will be those who wish to harm Europeans.

Not qualifying and vetting people as they entered Germany was a mistake. One that will be attributable to Merkel, and a consequence of that mistake is the terrorist attacks they now suffer with alarming regularity.

Innocent Europeans, including women and children, dying for a political ideology that has gone too far. And the fear of death isn't the only issue these people have to contend with due to the crass demagoguery of the "liberal" left.

I love it when you try to bend the truth to suit your political ideology, it just makes you look ridiculous. It is obviously not me who is beyond reason, evidence and logic.

ruggedtoast

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

That's not what Farage was saying was it. Nor what I believe, or what actually happened during the open door policy.

You can bend the truth to appease yourself and those who already believe such warped arguments, but to those who can actually accept the reality of the truth can clearly see that amongst the migrants will be those who wish to harm Europeans.

Not qualifying and vetting people as they entered Germany was a mistake. One that will be attributable to Merkel, and a consequence of that mistake is the terrorist attacks they now suffer with alarming regularity.

Innocent Europeans, including women and children, dying for a political ideology that has gone too far. And the fear of death isn't the only issue these people have to contend with due to the crass demagoguery of the "liberal" left.

I love it when you try to bend the truth to suit your political ideology, it just makes you look ridiculous. It is obviously not me who is beyond reason, evidence and logic.

If you want to understand why Germany is ideologically more accommodating toward immigration than other countries, I suggest you look at some European history. You might want to start with the 1930s.

If Merkel is guilty of anything it is of failing to use Germany's influence to offer robust opposition to Britain and America's apocalyptically incompetent imperialist military abuse of the Middle East. A strategy that has led to the fundamentalism and stream of refugees that you and the other UKIPers are getting so hot and bothered about.

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

If you want to understand why Germany is ideologically more accommodating toward immigration than other countries, I suggest you look at some European history. You might want to start with the 1930s.

If Merkel is guilty of anything it is of failing to use Germany's influence to offer robust opposition to Britain and America's apocalyptically incompetent imperialist military abuse of the Middle East. A strategy that has led to the fundamentalism and stream of refugees that you and the other UKIPers are getting so hot and bothered about.

Quite a segway into something remotely related to my post that you think you can attack me on, wrong again. You're making a habit of this.

What has the decision not to check people coming into the country got to do with World War 2? I'm well aware of their culture of guilt from the classroom and into wider society, it's a contributory factor to their current predicament but the ultimate responsibility is with Merkel and her government to ensure the safety of the German people - they failed.

ruggedtoast

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Quite a segway into something remotely related to my post that you think you can attack me on, wrong again. You're making a habit of this.

What has the decision not to check people coming into the country got to do with World War 2? I'm well aware of their culture of guilt from the classroom and into wider society, it's a contributory factor to their current predicament but the ultimate responsibility is with Merkel and her government to ensure the safety of the German people - they failed.

How do you qualify and vet thousands of people who have abandoned their homes in panic while escaping from a regime over which we share no intelligence data?

Kippers will wiggle and weave in every way imaginable to dehumanise refugees then blame the thing they are escaping from on the places that they seek refuge.

CKhalvashi

Rinoa wrote: »

Japanese companies spend $35Bn this year buying up UK companies, up from $9.5Bn last year. How's that for post-brexit confidence?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/japanese-investment-and-ma-sales-in-uk-despite-brexit-quit-talks-2016-12

It makes me confident that Britain will become a skilled, low wage hub for EU manufacturing.

Happy with how confident I am?

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

How do you qualify and vet thousands of people who have abandoned their homes in panic while escaping from a regime over which we share no intelligence data?

Kippers will wiggle and weave in every way imaginable to dehumanise refugees then blame the thing they are escaping from on the places that they seek refuge.

It can and has been done in the past.

Do you think that not trying to do so is acceptable?

Germany ought to have done what David Cameron proposed which was to help them in the countries around Syria.

No need to let Tunisians, Pakistani's, and any other nationality in when they're not fleeing a war zone, they'll be economic migrants won't they, they should be checked like any other migrant, as I would expect to be checked. Do you think the young impressionable German girls would be holding up "economic migrants welcome" signs if the left hadn't lied? The left politicised the Syrian conflict and the people fleeing it, lumped them in with all the other migrants and called them all refugees. The German government capitulated and failed in its duty to protect its citizens not only from murder but from many other crimes these people commit. Merkel will be remembered for that, Farage is correct on this. As usual you are spectacularly wrong.

I love how none of your argument stands on any solid ground and you continue to defend it, it's becoming like the boomers thread all over again where you just look foolish.

prosaver

ruggedtoast wrote: »

How do you qualify and vet thousands of people who have abandoned their homes in panic while escaping from a regime over which we share no intelligence data?

Kippers will wiggle and weave in every way imaginable to dehumanise refugees then blame the thing they are escaping from on the places that they seek refuge.

It was mostly men, sorry