If we vote for Brexit what happens

Herzlos

CLAPTON wrote: »

so you are he, are outraged about a proposal that has been (rightly) abandoned

It's outrageous enough that it was proposed. And I bet without all the backlash it'd have gone ahead.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And what if you don't want to live in a country where people from Poland have to go through an application process to prove they intend to return home after visiting their grandchildren.

Tbh I am not sure what common ground can ever be found between the Brexit / anti Brexit camps. You, Clapton and your pals find the fact that I want people from other countries to be able to come here as incomprehensible as I find the fact that you don't.

do you support unlimited immigration from any country in the world?

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

It's outrageous enough that it was proposed. And I bet without all the backlash it'd have gone ahead.

which bits do you find most abhorent
-the idea that companies should not discriminate against the native born
-that the government should have records of where people work
-that the government should have records of where people live
-that such information if held shouldn't be a state secret

Conrad

Canada has a day long exam process (amongst months of checks and procedures) for people wanting to move there. A chap on LBC the other day was explaining the written tests etc, really quite an eye opener.


Ruggedtoast would hate to live in the kind of place that does that...and yet Canada is viewed as a liberal beacon.

Conrad

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And 52% of it loves you right back.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/11/17/brexit-briefing/


Still no Bregrets...


'68% of people think that Britain should go ahead with Brexit'

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Still no Bregrets...

'68% of people think that Britain should go ahead with Brexit'

You're wilfully misinterpreting that stat.

I think we should go ahead with Brexit. It doesn't mean I don't think it's a pretty stupid idea or have suddenly seen the light and become a true believer.

We're all leavers now.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

You're wilfully misinterpreting that stat.

I think we should go ahead with Brexit. It doesn't mean I don't think it's a pretty stupid idea or have suddenly seen the light and become a true believer.

We're all leavers now.

You will become a believer, the only question is when, and I mean this in all sincerity. There will come a day when you feel really good about UK plc, proud in fact of what we've pulled off.


The old squabble club lumbering EU will deffo not be a good place to be

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

You will become a believer, the only question is when, and I mean this in all sincerity. There will come a day when you feel really good about UK plc, proud in fact of what we've pulled off.

The old squabble club lumbering EU will deffo not be a good place to be

Come on. You've been banging on about the dawning of the third era of prosperity and coming fifth industrial revolution for half a decade. You're a perma-believer about any bee which happens to be buzzing in your bonnet at the time which makes your forecasts valueless.

I already feel good about the UK thanks and don't think human progress ceased on the 24th June 2016 but neither do I think the act of leaving the EU is going to catapult the UK into a new sphere of prosperity.

As you've often mentioned those making the loudest, brashest predictions are those most likely to be wrong. I think we'll be just fine although not quite as good as if we stayed.

setmefree2

Brexit: Middle class liberals were only social group to emphatically back Remain, analysis shows

Funny that. It's great that our two resident "leftie" posters Moby and Toxic are on the side of the middle classes....how times have changed. Back in the day Lefties were on the side of the poor and working classes.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/07/brexit-middle-class-liberals-social-group-emphatically-back/

setmefree2

U.K.'s Risky Current-Account Deficit Isn’t as Big as Was Thought

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-06/u-k-s-risky-current-account-deficit-isn-t-as-big-as-was-thought

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/06/uks-trade-deficit-before-brexit-vote-narrower-than-first-calculated