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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Net migration has stayed near record levels, standing at 335,000 in the year to June, the Office for National Statistics has said.
    There was also a record number of EU citizens coming to live in Britain with the figure standing at 284,000.
    Net migration - immigration minus emigration - was the second-highest number on record.
    immigration to the UK has also risen to a record level with 650,000 migrants in the year to June.Net migration from the EU was the highest figure on record with the number standing at 189,000.
    Figures show 311,000 people came to live in the UK for work-related reasons.
    But the ONS said there was a "statistically significant" rise in the number of people who were "looking for work", 130,000, compared to 107,000 last year, as opposed to those who had a definite job to go to.
    For the first time, Romania tops the list for the country with the most number of migrants to the UK - with 54,000 people coming to live in Britain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38167225
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    ZURICH, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Swiss efforts to curb immigration from the European Union without provoking a clash with Brussels cleared another hurdle on Thursday when parliament's upper house backed giving locals first crack at open jobs rather than adopting outright quotas.
    The step is roughly in line with a bill the lower house adopted in September, skirting direct confrontation with the EU which has insisted on free movement of people, a key condition for enhanced Swiss access to the single market.
    The two bills still must be reconciled ahead of a final vote later this month, but both stop short of upper limits and quotas on immigration that Swiss voters demanded in a binding 2014 referendum.
    How the EU reacts to the legislation will be scrutinised for hints of what Britain might expect as it negotiates terms of its EU exit after voting in June to quit the bloc.
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3990004/Swiss-upper-house-backs-immigration-bill-avoiding-EU-quotas.html#ixzz4Raiz7IWQ
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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    No doubt the ensuing price rises of this will be blamed on Brexit!
    Oil price leaps 10% after Opec deal
  • setmefree2 wrote: »
    No doubt the ensuing price rises of this will be blamed on Brexit!
    We'll see how long it lasts.
    Judging from efforts so far this year to raise the price of oil, it won't last long IMHO.
    The oil price rally sparked by an OPEC-Russia deal to cut output is likely to be short-lived, say traders in Asia, because the agreement may only draw more supplies from storage tanks and more crude shipments from the United States.
    http://fortune.com/2016/12/01/opec-oil-price-rally-output-supplies/
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Remainers maintain the UK is now a laughing stock and many say going down the pan, et still Europeans flood into the UK when they could chose non-laughing stock EU nations
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    During his regular session facing MPs in the Commons, Mr Davis was asked a number of questions about the shape of the future Brexit deal, including one from Labour MP Wayne David, who said: "Will the government consider making any contribution in any shape or form for access to the single market?"

    Mr Davis replied: "The major criterion here is that we get the best possible access for goods and services to the European market - and if that is included in what you are talking about, then of course we will consider it."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38168942

    Interesting (to me) is that every time a soft brexit theory gets an airing Sterling strengthens and the FTSE falls (maybe due to a re-rating of dividend value).

    The talk about the inevitability of weakening currency being due to the trade deficit is a load of guff. The markets seem pretty consistent in associating a hard brexit with a weak currency - probably due to an expectation of a weaker demand from our trading partners for sterling.
  • Tromking
    Tromking Posts: 2,691 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Remainers maintain the UK is now a laughing stock and many say going down the pan, et still Europeans flood into the UK when they could chose non-laughing stock EU nations

    Indeed.
    The wanton xenophobia and racism that pervades little England post Brexit referendum is seemingly no barrier to other Europeans.
    Another Remainiac myth scotched with simple facts.
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Tromking wrote: »
    Indeed.
    The wanton xenophobia and racism that pervades little England post Brexit referendum is seemingly no barrier to other Europeans.
    Another Remainiac myth scotched with simple facts.

    They're so full of it when they trot those terms out to describe leave voters.

    When the 'tolerant' citizens of the EU in:

    - Netherlands, are implementing a partial ban of the burqa.
    - Sweden, are radically changing their migration laws to remove the option for permanent citizenship for refugees, i.e. they must return home at some point, their stay is only temporary.
    - France, have banned the burqa and will be electing a president in 2017 that doesn't believe in multiculturalism.
    - Hungary, has closed its borders and have erected walls/fences to keep migrants and refugees out.
    - the Visegrad group, where members say they don't want to take refugees as they are orthodox Christian countries and intend to remain so.
    - Austria, who look like they're going to elect a far-right president given voter fraud was found in the previous vote, on the side of the opposition who won by 0.6% (~30,000) votes from postal ballots.
    - Switzerland, petitioning the EU to allow them to discriminate against foreigners when they apply for jobs alongside Swiss citizens.

    These are things that have already, or will happen.

    How many more examples do you need that those in the UK who voted leave on the basis of immigration are not alone in their concerns and that the UK is not this xenophobic laughing stock due to this. The sneering from some on this issue is abhorrent, as if somehow they occupy a moral high ground. What they're actually displaying is bigotry.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,951 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Remainers maintain the UK is now a laughing stock and many say going down the pan, et still Europeans flood into the UK when they could chose non-laughing stock EU nations

    I assume it'll be much easier for an EU National to get out of the UK once the gates shut, than to get in. It may actually work alright, but if I was hedging my bets I'd want to start on the inside.
  • Moby
    Moby Posts: 3,917 Forumite
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    They're so full of it when they trot those terms out to describe leave voters.

    When the 'tolerant' citizens of the EU in:

    - Netherlands, are implementing a partial ban of the burqa.
    - Sweden, are radically changing their migration laws to remove the option for permanent citizenship for refugees, i.e. they must return home at some point, their stay is only temporary.
    - France, have banned the burqa and will be electing a president in 2017 that doesn't believe in multiculturalism.
    - Hungary, has closed its borders and have erected walls/fences to keep migrants and refugees out.
    - the Visegrad group, where members say they don't want to take refugees as they are orthodox Christian countries and intend to remain so.
    - Austria, who look like they're going to elect a far-right president given voter fraud was found in the previous vote, on the side of the opposition who won by 0.6% (~30,000) votes from postal ballots.
    - Switzerland, petitioning the EU to allow them to discriminate against foreigners when they apply for jobs alongside Swiss citizens.

    These are things that have already, or will happen.

    How many more examples do you need that those in the UK who voted leave on the basis of immigration are not alone in their concerns and that the UK is not this xenophobic laughing stock due to this. The sneering from some on this issue is abhorrent, as if somehow they occupy a moral high ground. What they're actually displaying is bigotry.
    Your examples of small minded xenephobia in Europe doesn't justify the small minded little Englander xenophobia here! Two wrongs don't make a right!
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