If we vote for Brexit what happens

MobileSaver

veryintrigued wrote: »

whilst also attempting to belittle the brexiteers as being a 'little bit stupid'.

Oh I think many believe that Brexiteers are much more than just a little bit stupid.

Conrad wrote: »

What would you spend this money one?

I'd like to see it spent on the NHS as extensively advertised by the Leave campaign... or was that just a blatant lie to mislead the 'little bit stupid' people?

Conrad wrote: »

the EU will not harm its own trade and thus wont harm ours, we will find a solution and save £28 m per day

Great, so we'll get exactly the same trade deals (or better) and it won't cost us a penny? Fantastic, do you have any evidence of this or are you just making it up as you go along?

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

They cannot / will not accept that the UK can succeed outside of the EU. When it does they'll just say it would have succeeded even more if we'd stayed in.

On the contrary, that's exactly what many Remainers have always said. We will hopefully not self-destruct if we leave the EU but we will be worse off than if we'd stayed.

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

They really are a sad bunch of losers.

Sadly we are all going to lose by leaving the EU but at least we'll get rid of all those Johnny Foreigners, eh, so I'm sure in your eyes worth a little bit of pain.

mwpt

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

The remoaners won't be content unless the British economy is bought to its knees. They cannot / will not accept that the UK can succeed outside of the EU. When it does they'll just say it would have succeeded even more if we'd stayed in. They really are a sad bunch of losers.

I am often amazed at human's ability to filter the world into their own preconceived views. I would say that 99% of remain voters think and openly say that the UK will succeed outside of the EU in some fashion. What that fashion is varies. There are of course some people who think the world will end if we stay in the EU and some who think it'll end when if we leave.

You choose to focus on the 1% of views and that forms the basis of your arguments against "remoaners".

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

I am often amazed at human's ability to filter the world into their own preconceived views.

indeed so.................

movilogo

Stats of Brits living in EU and EU nationals living in UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/22/british-expats-set-granted-right-carry-living-eu-theresa-mays/

Mostly skewed against UK, especially for East European countries.

David_Aston

I'm disappointed that the term remoaners is still being used. It is meant to be insulting, but why insult, where is the benefit?
If you do insist, could you at least give it five years or so before using it again? We should have some sort of clear idea about the direction of travel by then.

antrobus

mwpt wrote: »

I am often amazed at human's ability to filter the world into their own preconceived views...

I have ceased to be amazed by the phenomenon. It appears to be commonplace on MSE, at least on any thread that bears either the word 'boomer' or 'Scotland' in the title. Or anything EU.

Conrad

David_Aston wrote: »

I'm disappointed that the term remoaners is still being used. It is meant to be insulting, but why insult, where is the benefit?
If you do insist, could you at least give it five years or so before using it again? We should have some sort of clear idea about the direction of travel by then.

And will remainers stop insulting brexiteers as fools and working class 'oiks' that were swayed by a Boris bus? No chance

Conrad

mwpt wrote: »

I am often amazed at human's ability to filter the world into their own preconceived views. I would say that 99% of remain voters think and openly say that the UK will succeed outside of the EU in some fashion. What that fashion is varies. There are of course some people who think the world will end if we stay in the EU and some who think it'll end when if we leave.

You choose to focus on the 1% of views and that forms the basis of your arguments against "remoaners".

In terms of remoaners on here, the bulk of them paint a very bleak picture of life outside the EU, about regrets and apologies for this grave error, for little Englander isolationism, with drawbridges up, the laughing stock of Europe, unable to co-operate across borders, with rampant inflation, no mention of the positives at all etc etc


Bizzare that you filtered out this fact and then go onto to decry filtering, lol.
BTW look back at your last 25 posts - aside from criticising others debating style I see very little

Conrad

MobileSaver wrote: »

Oh I think many believe that Brexiteers are much more than just a little bit stupid.


Ah, the same old lame insult borne from total ignorance, well done you in you fog of misinformation


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/07/north-poor-brexit-myths


I'd like to see it spent on the NHS as extensively advertised by the Leave campaign... or was that just a blatant lie to mislead the 'little bit stupid' people?


We CAN spend it how we as a society decide, get it yet? Stretchhhh than brain



Great, so we'll get exactly the same trade deals (or better) and it won't cost us a penny? Fantastic, do you have any evidence of this or are you just making it up as you go along?


Every nation between Iceland and Turkey bar one enjoys free trade with EU and we are a massive market fro CORE EU nations. They want many things from us including unfettered access to our massive market and fishing grounds, full military and intelligence commitment, 8300 passports into the city etc


Even with WTO all would be fine, we would soon adapt - and like Japan and others export perfectly well into Europe



Sadly we are all going to lose by leaving the EU but at least we'll get rid of all those Johnny Foreigners, eh, so I'm sure in your eyes worth a little bit of pain.


Another wrong prediction, we will prosper like billyo

Mine in red...

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

And will remainers stop insulting brexiteers as fools and working class 'oiks' that were swayed by a Boris bus? No chance

The claim that leave voters tend to be lower educated is not an insult, but a fact.

The most dramatic split is along the lines of education. 70% of voters whose educational attainment is only GCSE or lower voted to Leave, while 68% of voters with a university degree voted to Remain in the EU.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted/