If we vote for Brexit what happens

Herzlos

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Having a degree does not make one more intelligent, more informed, or superior unless you are arguing with the degree holder about their particular subject matter, and even then it's not a given.

I'd largely agree; staying in education beyond GCSE doesn't necessarily make you more intelligent; but not all further education is trivial to achieve either. Degree holders are more likely to be in senior positions in companies, to work internationally and so on, so may have more exposure to EU markets than earliest opportunity school leavers.

setmefree2 wrote: »

The Treasury predicted we would be in recession by now with half a million jobs lost.

Based on the assumption that Cameron would have triggered A50 on June 24th, which he didn't do. You can't blame the Treasury for getting the results wrong when the input was wrong.

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/23/brexit-uncertainty-could-hit-investment-in-uk-warns-german-car-chief

From bad to worse.....such a depressing outlook for all our futures!

You seemed to have ignored my post so I will repeat it.

What more depressing than under Blair and Brown?

This is what the Labour Party did to the UK's budget deficit when times where good.



That's £221 billion of debt between 2001 and 2007 when we were in a boom. £101 Billion in year to 2008 and £153 billion in 2009/10.

Tell me did you spend the naughties feeling depressed about the amount of debt Labour was racking up?

OBR's forecast today.

OBR BUDGET DEFICIT FORECASTS
"The OBR now forecast that in cash terms, borrowing is set to be: 68.2 billion pounds this year; falling to 59 billion pounds next year; 46.5 billion pounds in 2018-19; then 21.9 billion pounds; 20.7 billion pounds, and finally 17.2 billion pounds in 2021-22.

I think you need to calm down tbh. You are over reacting.

Moby

setmefree2 wrote: »

By the way, nothing depressing about my life....

You see there lies the difference between us....I don't define how I see this country just by how my life is going;)

But this Govmt promised to end the deficit by 2020! By the way Labour built up debt to rescue the services destroyed by the Thatcher govmts.....You know.....things like the NHS, education etc. These services were on their knees in the 90's.....by the way the NHS is reverting back to that situation......I wonder who is in power!

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

You see there lies the difference between us....I don't define how I see this country just by how my life is going;)

Really? So you were depressed under Blair and Brown because they were racking up so much debt ? Did it keep you awake at night? Did you fear for the UK's future?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

The claim that leave voters tend to be lower educated is not an insult, but a fact.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted/

Er nope, not really.
I can read and interpret data and figures even if you can't.

Sample Size: 5455 UK Adults

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/oxmidrr5wh/EUFinalCall_Reweighted.pdf

So that is a sample of 5455 from a total number of votes cast of 33,551,983 (not counting spoiled ballot papers) - and you really believe that will give a true indication of actual votes?
In other words, that a sample of under 0.017% of votes cast will be a true indicator of outcome?

Laughable.
And at best a continuation of anarchic disbelief in a democratic vote.

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/23/brexit-uncertainty-could-hit-investment-in-uk-warns-german-car-chief

From bad to worse.....such a depressing outlook for all our futures!

Not at all, just people kicking the negotiating ball about, stop getting so easily spooked.


Remember we've had dozens of global firms making new investments since June and the global Dim Sum and Masala bond trade is establishing its epi-centre in London right now


Honestly we cant just throw up our hands in defeat every time a bit of challenging news comes our way, we will make Brexit a success and the EU will never self hamper its own trade

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

Remember we've had dozens of global firms making new investments since June and the global Dim Sum and Masala bond trade is establishing its epi-centre in London right now

And we've had dozens of global firms expressing concern about the future. Some of them even needed private assurances from Downing Street in order to invest.

mayonnaise

setmefree2 wrote: »

The Treasury predicted we would be in recession by now with half a million jobs lost.

No, they didn't
This post-truth thingy is a getting a bit out of hand now. :rotfl:

mayonnaise

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Er nope, not really.
I can read and interpret data and figures even if you can't.


https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/oxmidrr5wh/EUFinalCall_Reweighted.pdf

So that is a sample of 5455 from a total number of votes cast of 33,551,983 (not counting spoiled ballot papers) - and you really believe that will give a true indication of actual votes?
In other words, that a sample of under 0.017% of votes cast will be a true indicator of outcome?

Laughable.
And at best a continuation of anarchic disbelief in a democratic vote.

Yes, it's a sample of 5455.
No, they didn't survey all 33,551,983.
Keep up the good work Jock. :T

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

And we've had dozens of global firms expressing concern about the future. Some of them even needed private assurances from Downing Street in order to invest.

Happens all the time. Building factories etc is a long term investment. Knowing that the Government of the day is on the same page is extremely important.