If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

If EU consumers are paying tariffs to buy our exports we'll be paying tariffs on theirs.

It's how politicians minds work.

which is a good reason why you should be against EU protectionism and welcome brexit with the opportunity of having a better economic policy.

setmefree2

CLAPTON wrote: »

which is a good reason why you should be against EU protectionism and welcome brexit with the opportunity of having a better economic policy.

Indeed. I still however believe that tariffs will be set at 0% on those goods where it's in the UK consumers best interests.

TrickyTree83

Moby wrote: »

Yep lets return to the good old days when men were men and women were grateful.:rotfl:...... and we all knew were we stood! How dare people try to define their own identity or even have a view on it.....Yes the world is a complicated place for the reactionary.......that's why they try to preserve everything in aspic and we should all know our place! How dare that 'socialist' :eek: Merkel........ a woman at that......and a German to boot.....dare to order us British around. Well we showed them pesky liberals....we have taken back our country and we'll be fine because the Donald likes us and Nigel had a word with him. He'll make sure those awful continental types, the dirty decadent rotters, don't do us over on Brexit........just so long as we are a bit kinder to Uncle Vladimir!.....who is very happy with his masculine identity by the way......have you seen him topless on that horse........such a man, such a hero. He has put those gays in their place......... I'm a liberal really though, really I am...it's just that those awful socialist types just pushed me too far.......and by the way it's the immigrants fault.

This is just tears. Which is what usually happens when you destroy their argument and ideology with truth.

Moby, tell us which minority is more important in toilets, trans gender or faiths who cannot share unisex facilities? Who gets the nod from the thought police?

Trying to paint me as a bad person because I told people who believe in identity politics, they're wrong. How long before I'm a racist, xenophobe, misogynist, nazi, white supremacist? Do you want to call me these things now and get it all out of the way? I understand these were veiled in your passage above but some may not see through the utter crap. Lets be open about what you really think.

Edit:

Then tell us how you're going to solve the problem for all of these genders...



Your politics and ideology on gender is a joke.

mrginge

setmefree2 wrote: »

Indeed. I still however believe that tariffs will be set at 0% on those goods where it's in the UK consumers best interests.

tariff options to affect domestic/international purchasing decisons are no different to immigration controls being used to affect skills requirements.

Thrugelmir

mwpt wrote: »

I am the consumer, I would rather pay £10 for a CD imported from Germany than £20 for a CD manufactured here.

Who pays £20 for a CD? I certainly don't. A vinyl album perhaps but that's personal choice as I prefer the quality.

mwpt

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Who pays £20 for a CD? I certainly don't. A vinyl album perhaps but that's personal choice as I prefer the quality.

Thank you for clarifying that you would not like to pay £20 for a CD. I am unsure how that contributes to the original point, but it is good to know that neither of us would like to pay £20 for a CD.

gfplux

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

The point I was trying to make was that when gaps in our market appear because items sourced in the EU become too expensive, business somewhere else or in the UK will fill the gap. It's the natural order of things. Yet people on this forum seem hell bent on not recognising this and continue to tell us that only the EU will produce certain products and that those products will increase in price and we'll be stuffed. Sure brands manufactured in the EU exclusively will go up if we have tariffs, whether people still buy these products at their inflated prices or opt for alternatives at a more reasonable price is a pretty foregone conclusion unless money is not a worry for you.

I agree Tricky. But it does not happen like night following day. Sometimes a gap in the market remains just that... a gap in the market.
I am a Remainder and nothing will change that until ALL the results are in but that may beyond my lifetime. I am well past retirement age.
What is so fascinating is to observe all that is, will and can happen.

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

I think you've nailed it right there. The Rich Liberal Left has become over concerned with this stuff, whilst not caring about the problems and difficulties of real working people to whom none of this stuff matters on a day to day basis.

The rich Liberal Elite seem to care little for real people - they have their noses well and truly in the trough - while they coat themselves in a Liberal veneer that makes them feel good about themselves. And they act all superior. Nauseating.

Nevertheless they expect the white working classes (aka as chaves or white trash) to continue to vote Labour or Democrat - when they don't - the elitist Left then hurl abuse at them- you're racists and thick, etc.

I agree with both the principle that Moby mentions and your reply.

Clinton (who I admire) spent too much time talking to and about minority groups and forgot to talk to the rest of the people. While I will and want to defend minority's I must always remember the majority.

kabayiri

mwpt wrote: »

Thank you for clarifying that you would not like to pay £20 for a CD. I am unsure how that contributes to the original point, but it is good to know that neither of us would like to pay £20 for a CD.

Consumers would adopt streaming even faster than they are doing. That's all.

Vinyl is a great example of a niche market able to respond to a localised demand. Old vinyl presses are being resurrected both here and in Canada. Despite the process being fairly labour intensive and materially inefficient, there is a lot of profit to be made by local manufacture.

I'd be curious to know your production costs for this £20 cd.

mwpt

kabayiri wrote: »

Consumers would adopt streaming even faster than they are doing. That's all.

Vinyl is a great example of a niche market able to respond to a localised demand. Old vinyl presses are being resurrected both here and in Canada. Despite the process being fairly labour intensive and materially inefficient, there is a lot of profit to be made by local manufacture.

I'd be curious to know your production costs for this £20 cd.

Well, I'm still not sure why we're focussing so hard about the cost of a CD. Pick any other product you like and we can discuss Thrug's original post that I responded to.