If we vote for Brexit what happens

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

just admit you are against unlimited immigration
but it goes against you bigoted views.

The McCarthyite feels empowered by Trumps cabinet appointments:rotfl: Admit it!, admit It! or we'll waterboard you.

setmefree2

Originally Posted by Herzlos
Under WTO terms, that imported CD could easily run to £19 too (assuming £8 handling fee + 10% tariff), before you factor in exchange rates :j

Of course, by then the UK will probably cost closer to £25 for the same reasons.

The tariff is a maximum that can be set - if the UK wants to set tariffs at 0% on certain imported goods it can. Ditto if it wants to lower VAT on certain imported goods it can.

setmefree2

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Sure brands manufactured in the EU exclusively will go up if we have tariffs, whether people still buy these products at their inflated prices or opt for alternatives at a more reasonable price is a pretty foregone conclusion unless money is not a worry for you.

Tariffs can be set at zero by the UK. WTO tariffs are a maximum allowed tariff. So the UK government can set exclusively made in the EU goods at zero.

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

Yep lets return to the good old days when men were men and women were grateful.:rotfl:...... and we all knew were we stood! How dare people try to define their own identity or even have a view on it.....Yes the world is a complicated place for the reactionary.......that's why they try to preserve everything in aspic and we should all know our place! How dare that 'socialist' :eek:

I think you've nailed it right there. The Rich Liberal Left has become over concerned with this stuff, whilst not caring about the problems and difficulties of real working people to whom none of this stuff matters on a day to day basis.

The rich Liberal Elite seem to care little for real people - they have their noses well and truly in the trough - while they coat themselves in a Liberal veneer that makes them feel good about themselves. And they act all superior. Nauseating.

Nevertheless they expect the white working classes (aka as chaves or white trash) to continue to vote Labour or Democrat - when they don't - the elitist Left then hurl abuse at them- you're racists and thick, etc.

setmefree2

CNN has obtained a memo setting out the Trump plan for withdrawing from the North American Free Trade Agreement within 200 days of his becoming President. He may then revert to a US-Canada deal along the lines of the 1987 Canada-US trade agreement (CAFTA), or perhaps extend that with a new bilateral deal with Canada.
It is now widely reported, and understood by the Trump transition team, that Trump will then want to offer the UK a trade agreement, either as an extension of the Canadian agreement into a new North Atlantic Trade Agreement (NAtlaFTA) or a separate bilateral deal. It is a mistake to understand Trump’s position on NAFTA as being simple opposition to trade agreements.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/11/18/donald-trump-wants-to-do-a-huge-trade-deal-with-britain-next-yea/

cogito

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Imagine the collapse of socialism if Front National and AfD got into power?

Expand that, and imagine if in Italy Renzi goes in December and 5Star gets into power like they have in Rome, and SD in Sweden, FPO in Austira (currently on course to win: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_presidential_election,_2016#Second_round_re-vote), Hungary are already there. The EU are facing a crisis but the political will that holds it together is in crisis, and they continue not to listen.

Not to mention recent elections in Bulgaria of a pro-Russian president, the collapse of the Estonian government which will almost certainly see a pro-Russian government elected, upcoming elections in Holland with a far right party leading in the polls. Then you have Spain and Portugal with barely functioning governments and a further election in Spain coming up (is that three or four in not much more than a year?) Romania has an upcoming election which is likely to go the same way as Bulgaria and Estonia.

Candidate nations like Montenegro, Serbia and Moldova are having second thoughts and leaning more in the direction of Russia with whom they have strong historical ties.

There's a lot of dissatisfaction throughout the EU which the Juncker gang are watching helplessly. Once the UK leave, Germany will have to shoulder the financial burden and they can't afford to continue funding the poorer countries many of which joined to get the money.

Much as I loathe the unelected buffoons in Brussels, I would hate to see the whole thing come crashing down because of the unholy mess it would create. The current mess is nothing in comparison to that.

setmefree2

Drop Brexit case appeal, senior Tories urge May

He added that one of the advantages of bringing a "fast and tightly timetabled and constrained bill" to Parliament, giving the government the ability to trigger Brexit without any constraints on its negotiating power, was that it avoided "any risk of the Supreme Court deciding to accord the devolved administrations some rights or even some veto powers".
Former Solicitor General Sir Edward Garnier said Mrs May should drop the appeal to avoid expense and a row about judges' powers, while former Attorney General Dominic Grieve said he could not see the point of continuing with the case.
All three said ministers should bring a bill allowing the government to begin leaving the European Union - triggering Article 50 - as soon as possible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38034411

setmefree2

May has changed her legal case for the right to start Brexit without the consent of Parliament in a way that could yet allow the process of leaving the EU to be halted. A document submitted to the Supreme Court shows that the Government will – as revealed by The Independent last week – argue the triggering of Article 50 will not directly affect the rights of British citizens.

The shift is designed to overturn the High Court’s ruling that MPs and peers must be involved at the start of Brexit because rights would irretrievably be lost at that point.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-theresa-may-parliamentary-vote-legal-case-supreme-court-appeal-a7425731.html

setmefree2

The Liberal Left

UK needs migration because Britons are 'so bloody stupid', says peer who wrote Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty

has provoked outrage after he claimed Britain needs intelligent migrants to come to the UK because "native" Britons are "so bloody stupid". Lord Kerr of Kinlochard is the peer responsible for writing Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon, which gives any EU member the right to quit unilaterally.

He also insisted that the arrival of migrants was a "good thing" and kept Britain running.
The cross-bench peer blamed Brexit on David Cameron’s "disastrous" commitment to keep net migration at under 100,000 a year.
Peter Lilley, a Eurosceptic Tory MP, walked out of the talk after claiming Lord Keer showed "contempt for ordinary British people."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/18/pro-eu-peer-lord-kerr-says-uk-needs-migration-because-britons-ar/

wotsthat

setmefree2 wrote: »

The tariff is a maximum that can be set - if the UK wants to set tariffs at 0% on certain imported goods it can. Ditto if it wants to lower VAT on certain imported goods it can.

If EU consumers are paying tariffs to buy our exports we'll be paying tariffs on theirs.

It's how politicians minds work.