If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Where the right-wing have already murdered a politician for being pro-Europe, do you think it's fair for the PM to condone the press regarding 3 named individuals as, and I quote for clarity "Enemies of the people"?

Why does the PM condone all the hate speech/crime that has been occurring since we validated the xenophobes in June?

Your reference to killing an politician is an excellent example of an ranting gutter press and it unworthy.


You are an example what you preach about.

CLAPTON

CKhalvashi wrote: »

If the press is in contempt of court, which it seems potentially so here, then yes. There is a huge lack of basic reporting on the facts in 3 newspapers over the weekend, and The Mail is already reporting again on alleged corruption of the legal system this morning.

do you think alleged corruption should not be reported or only if it appears pro brexit?

Undermining the very system that we need to have faith in, which is also the system that protects our rights as citizens of the UK is not a good move, especially from someone who 2 months ago was the Home Secretary, therefore someone who could be construed as admitting that they couldn't cope with the running of the Home Office in working closely with the Department for Justice, and therefore not fit for promotion to Prime Minister.

indeed corrupt of the establishment, police, NHS also brings it into disrepute so you would suppress all such revelation : think mid staffs.
you sound something out of Russia or some middle eastern dictatorship

In short, a balance needs to be struck between freedom of the press and freedom of the courts to do their duty, and my personal opinion is that there is huge concern the former has gone too far in this particular instance.

your 'balance ' criteria are easy : pro brexit then ban it; pro 'remain' support it

Would you like me to start a campaign of abuse against you for doing your job? No, thought not.

you appear to be an ignorant person with no worthwhile knowledge

Herzlos

CLAPTON wrote: »

Your reference to killing an politician is an excellent example of an ranting gutter press and it unworthy.

How so? What did I say that was ranting, inaccurate or unworthy? Do you deny that Jo Cox was murdered? Politically? Because of her pro-EU stance?

CLAPTON wrote: »

most of the world would love to become the poorest in the uk ; many will die for it so we must be doing something 'right',
however, I do agree we should break the cycle of dependency and encourage the children of the poor to learn and live worthwhile lives rather than one of minor crime and drug taking.

Ah, the good old "we can be horrible to our poor, because there are poorer out there" line. It doesn't make how we treat them any better.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Herzlos wrote: »

Do you deny that Jo Cox was murdered? Politically? Because of her pro-EU stance?

We may never fully understand the reasons she was murdered, but certainly until the trial it's all just hysterical internet speculation, and not particularly respectful.

ruggedtoast

CKhalvashi wrote: »

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-11-06/pm-insists-i-value-the-freedom-of-our-press/

Theresa May is sanctioning the faith in our legal system to be undermined by the press.

This woman is dangerous and needs to be removed from office ASAP, preferably via an election. I wonder if she's going to have the same attitude when she is forced to back down by the Supreme Court or (preferably) the ECJ.

She is a very limited politician and like all mainstream politicians apart from Jeremy Corbyn, she is absolutely terrified of the Daily Mail and The Sun.

Right wing febrile rabble rousing is the order of the day. May doesn't even remotely look to be in charge.

wotsthat

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/06/nigel-farage-to-lead-100000-strong-march-on-supreme-court-on-day/

Nigel Farage is planning to lead a 100,000-strong march to the Supreme Court to coincide with the start of the Government’s attempt to stop peers and MPs delaying Brexit.

If I was trying to turn brexit into a toxic brand I'd be delighted at this news.

ruggedtoast

wotsthat wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/06/nigel-farage-to-lead-100000-strong-march-on-supreme-court-on-day/



If I was trying to turn brexit into a toxic brand I'd be delighted at this news.

Didn't Brexiteers already turn it into a toxic brand? But yes, the sight of 100,000 purple faced douchbags led by Nigel Farage is only going to make it look worse.

ruggedtoast

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

We may never fully understand the reasons she was murdered, but certainly until the trial it's all just hysterical internet speculation, and not particularly respectful.

Heaven forfend that we should draw a parallel between a rise in right wing hate and a rise in right wing hate crime.

It's all part of a rancid Brexit stew with bitter BNP dumplings floating in a sour UKIP sauce.

By and large Brexiteers are the bitterest, angriest, most self entitled people I have had the misfortune to meet. Maybe if they stopped blaming their problems on Europe / foreigners / Labour politicians, and took some responsibility for their lives then they might make some headway into solving their problems.

ruggedtoast

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most of the world would love to become the poorest in the uk ; many will die for it so we must be doing something 'right',
however, I do agree we should break the cycle of dependency and encourage the children of the poor to learn and live worthwhile lives rather than one of minor crime and drug taking.
Originally posted by CLAPTON

Ugh. Even by your own lamentably low standards you are plumbing the depths of the barrel.

You believe that the boomers are a master race, you hate Christians, you have barmy white man's burden predilections towards Africa, and now you you are ranting about the untermensch.

There is no anachronism of vile right wing history to which you will not sink.

Enjoy your 100,000 man march of hatred against legally appointed judiciary, with Farage at the head.

Conrad

Just planning what to put on my banner for the big march;


'WHITE LIBERALS LIKE HURTING AFRICAN FARMERS'
'REMOANERS VOTED OUT OF FEAR AND COWARDICE'
'£28 MILLION PER DAY FOR PHOEBE’S ERASMUS'

'REMAONERS SAY BRITAIN IS WEAK'
'POSH AND PRIVELEDGED TERRIFIED OF CHANGE'
'RICH AND ARROGANT, THE EU WORKS FOR U'
'REMOANERS LOVE HURTING UK WORKERS'

'WAS BRITAIN AWFUL BEFORE BLAIR OPENED THE FLOODGATES'?
'I WASN'T FOOLED BY PROJECT FEAR'
'THE ESTABLISHMENT VS THE PEOPLES REVOLUTION'


'MR GLOOMY HATES BRITAIN'



A work in progress...