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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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Jeremy Corbyn has been forced to clarify that Labour will not block the triggering of Article 50 and force a general election. On Sunday the Labour leader suggested he would try to block Article 50 if the Prime Minister failed to agree to the Party's "Brexit bottom line".
Mr Corbyn told the Sunday Mirror that the UK must have continued access to the single market and there must be no watering down of workers' rights before Labour will back the process.But Tom Watson, the deputy Labour leader, insisted "the people have spoken and Article 50 will be triggered when it gets to Westminster".
A source close to Mr Corbyn told the Telegraph: "We won't be seeking to block Article 50, only amend or influence the government's negotiating terms if they do not meet our red lines.
"Our support for invoking article 50 is unconditional, but we would seek to amend or influence the government's negotiating terms."
Errr? I think Corbyn needs some lessons on negotiating tactics.0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »The Right to make our Laws.
The Right to control Immigration.
The Right to conduct Trade Deals.
We didn't lose any of those rights.
We agreed to temporarily pool responsibility for some of them for as long as we remained in the EU - but we could of course take them back at any time by virtue of leaving the EU.
So I'lll ask again - what rights did individuals lose when we joined the EU?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »We didn't lose any of those rights.
We agreed to temporarily pool responsibility for some of them for as long as we remained in the EU - but we could of course take them back at any time by virtue of leaving the EU.
So I'lll ask again - what rights did individuals lose when we joined the EU?
Seriously? It's like talking to someone who has been brain washed by a cult. Hamish - I voted Remain but I'm not dumb enough to argue that the UK's Parliament hasn't lost control of making our laws, that our government hasn't lost the ability to control immigration and our trade department hasn't lost the ability to negotiate trade deals. You might be fine with that - but you need to get your head around the fact that the majority of people in the UK aren't. We Lost.0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »Seriously? It's like talking to someone who has been brain washed by a cult. Hamish - I voted Remain but I'm not dumb enough to argue that the UK's Parliament hasn't lost control of making our laws, that our government hasn't lost the ability to control immigration and our trade department hasn't lost the ability to negotiate trade deals. You might be fine with that - but you need to get your head around the fact that the majority of people in the UK aren't. We Lost.
Hamish and rugged are now the same person0 -
Apparently when the Article 50 High Court ruling gets appealed at the Supreme Court in the UK, if that appeal fails it'll have to go to the European Court of Justice0
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Apparently when the Article 50 High Court ruling gets appealed at the Supreme Court in the UK, if that appeal fails it'll have to go to the European Court of Justice
which is an excellent example why we are no longer a sovereign country and that parliament is not sovereign and why we must leave the EU asap.
nothing could show our subservience more that that.0 -
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Apparently when the Article 50 High Court ruling gets appealed at the Supreme Court in the UK, if that appeal fails it'll have to go to the European Court of Justice
No, that's simply not true. Whoever you heard it from has absolutely no idea what they are talking about and simply made it up.
The dispute was about UK constitutional law, nothing to do with European law. It can be appealed to the Supreme Court but no further.0 -
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posh*spice wrote: »Yes it will. Especially if Gina Miller loses in the Supreme Court.
It won't have to go to the court at all, if either side decides to try that route, it may end up there but there's absolutely no 'have to' involved.
Also, the supreme court would need to refer the case to the ECJChange is inevitable, except from a vending machine.0
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