If we vote for Brexit what happens

MobileSaver

movilogo wrote: »

3 judges (one being very pro-EU) is overriding wish of 17 million people.

There is a good reason for public anger.

Yes, it's called stupidity. Or did I miss the bit where the judges said the UK would not leave the EU, thus overriding the wishes of 17 million people?

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And now Parliament is going to vote on what the people want. You should be pleased. You are all screaming about Parliament not having a say in your lives because of the EU (though none of you seem to be able to point to a single instance were this has affected you), and now they are having a say.

You voted to leave the EU, I didn't. Neither of us voted against immigration, free movement from the EU, or leaving the single market.

Now your "side" will have to make a case for what kind of separation we are going to have.

Personally I think that if we must leave so that Brexiters can feel delighted that they are being ruled by the Queen again, rather than by a parliament in a small country few of them could find on a map, then OK. But if they think they are going to separate us from the single market or stop our young people freely travelling, working and living in the EU then they are going to have no small amount of opposition.

looks like an all male, white, christian, middle aged clique is over ruling our multi-ethic, multi-racial, multi gender voters
Yes the people of the UK should be ashamed.
Good to know that toxic toastie is fighting for that all white, christian boys club and the right for our boys to mix with the 'right' sort of people just like his hero Di Abbott made sure her son didn't have to mix with them black boys

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

By doing what they think is best, they won't have asked their constituents who abstained. I'll guarantee my local MP won't be asking the people who didn't vote how they would have voted to accurately gauge public opinion.

It doesn't work that way.

A good MP will be trying to understand the views of his/ her constituents. Yes, they'll have their own idea about what's best and sometimes they'll have to follow party lines but ignoring the views of their constituents is inadvisable.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

The abstentions don't count, they will never count. Which is why they are not counted.

If the referendum was legally binding then of course. However it was only advisory and, pending appeal, it seems the government weren't in a position to be able to promise to action the result.

MP's have to decide and they're bound to represent their constituents not just some of them.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

If MP's represent the wishes of their constituents then they'll reflect what the result of the referendum was. If they don't reflect the will of their constituents from June 23rd, they would be interpreting the result themselves.

It's called a hospital pass although I fully expect if parliament get to vote the will of the 37% will prevail.

ruggedtoast

beecher2 wrote: »

Agree with much that you say, but they will have to make a case for the kind of separation they want us to have. They could say they want access to the single market and the EU could say 'in that case you need to have free movement of people'.

They will say that. Its a red line. And as leaving the single market would be economic suicide thats what we'll agree to. Probably with some fudge for brexitheads to have immigration looked at again in the future.

Of course by then we will have no say whatsoever in how the EU runs so we'll just have to suck up whatever they decide for us. Thereby ceding a lot more of our sovereignty.

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

looks like an all male, white, christian, middle aged clique is over ruling our multi-ethic, multi-racial, multi gender voters
Yes the people of the UK should be ashamed.
Good to know that toxic toastie is fighting for that all white, christian boys club and the right for our boys to mix with the 'right' sort of people just like his hero Di Abbott made sure her son didn't have to mix with them black boys

Can you explain to me how someone manages to be multi-gendered?

:rotfl:

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Can you explain to me how someone manages to be multi-gendered?

:rotfl:

interesting to see all your old revolutionary liberal clap trap, descend into male, white, middle age and wanting to mix with the 'right' people.
fascinating stuff : a transformation before our very eyes.: UKIP have several vacancies at the moment and they aren't too demanding for qualifications or capability: sorry I can't put a good word in for you but I don't care for your male, middle class, divisive, white principles.

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

interesting to see all your old revolutionary liberal clap trap, descend into male, white, middle age and wanting to mix with the 'right' people.
fascinating stuff : a transformation before our very eyes.: UKIP have several vacancies at the moment and they aren't too demanding for qualifications or capability: sorry I can't put a good word in for you but I don't care for your male, middle class, divisive, white principles.

Yes, right. I assume there is an insult in there somewhere but I really can't make head nor tail of where one train of thought ends and another starts so, have a spinning Martin for trying.

:money:

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

interesting to see all your old revolutionary liberal clap trap, descend into male, white, middle age and wanting to mix with the 'right' people.
fascinating stuff : a transformation before our very eyes.: UKIP have several vacancies at the moment and they aren't too demanding for qualifications or capability: sorry I can't put a good word in for you but I don't care for your male, middle class, divisive, white principles.

I'm organising a festival of irony. Would you mind being the keynote speaker?

stator

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Until today I was almost starting to feel bad about calling Brexitards, Brexitards.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/04/enemies-of-the-people-british-newspapers-react-judges-brexit-ruling

But, no. Jesus what a bunch. If you actually did vote Leave, and don't now regret it, how can you look at this right wing invective and not feel ashamed?

What I don't understand is why you think everyone who voted Leave is suddenly responsible for the gutter press?
Why would you feel ashamed of something you have no association with?
All newspapers are worthless filth in my eyes, regardless of whether they are pro or anti EU.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yes, right. I assume there is an insult in there somewhere but I really can't make head nor tail of where one train of thought ends and another starts so, have a spinning Martin for trying.

:money:

now come on
you know you never liked that multi-ethnic stuff : now you can revert to your true lib dem, all white, middle class, male 'colours' : no need to be embarrassed as you can wrap your dislike of 90% of the world in your support for the white, christian european ideal: you know you like strong authoritative leaders without any concern for liberal democracy