If we vote for Brexit what happens

ruggedtoast

Hahahahah! Suck on it Brexitards.

Ha!

Tards!

Masomnia

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Hahahahah! Suck on it Brexitards.

Ha!

Tards!

Ha.

Don't worry. Corbyn is backing Brexit, it'll get through the Commons.

MobileSaver

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'm merely explaining the ludicrously obvious workings of a referendum to you.

I expect some people are laughing at their screens.

I'm sure some people are laughing... at the ludicrous suggestion that the 13 million people who didn't vote somehow magically transformed into supporting the Leave campaign. :rotfl:

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

The only purpose was to help secure a Tory 2015 GE win. We weren't actually meant to vote to leave the EU.

There should never have been a referendum. Cameron should've promised a full parliamentary debate and vote on EU membership and the electorate could've considered the respective positions during the GE campaign.

did Cameron's commitment to a referendum suddenly prevent the electorate from considering respective positions?

the tories (and labour to a lesser extent) have never been able to come up with a consolidated view on Europe, so a pointless commitment to a parliamentary debate would have satisfied no-one who was thinking about voting UKIP. If anything it would have made Cameron look even weaker.

Unfortunately he made the bold move when he needed to get elected but then (as always) bottled it when he had to get something back from his negotiation.
He should have stuck to his guns with the EU and demanded some concessions.

But because Cameron simply made up most of his policies on the fly he hadn't thought it through properly. He gambled too often, failed to deliver when put on the spot and ultimately caused the massive division we see today.
Typical PR oxygen thief.

He was by far the worst PM ever seen in my lifetime. And after Gordon brown that is a pretty depressing statement.

beecher2

MobileSaver wrote: »

I'm sure some people are laughing... at the ludicrous suggestion that the 13 million people who didn't vote somehow magically transformed into supporting the Leave campaign. :rotfl:

They aren't magically transformed into supporting Remain either.

CKhalvashi

Masomnia wrote: »

Ha.

Don't worry. Corbyn is backing Brexit, it'll get through the Commons.

How many Tories are going to rebel though?

I'm in a region that may not be Conservative much longer, has a pro-remain MP and voted out, but only just, with a decent sized Labour vote.

It wouldn't take a lot to take his seat from him if an anti- common market stance was taken and there was an election, if he decided to re-stand as a Tory. I would happily stand against him, and my views are extremely pro-EU.

One district next door had a Leave vote, but a huge Tory majority, so possibly not, and in the other side is a very marginal seat that has swung between Labour and Conservative.

I'd take a bet that one would remain Con, one would be lost to Lab and one would be lost to LD.

That would halve the Tory majority.

All 3 campaigned to Remain.

Sorry for spelling, on an iPad.

CKhalvashi

beecher2 wrote: »

They aren't magically transformed into supporting Remain either.

Statistically, more would be remain than leave, preferring to maintain the status quo.

This is based on gut feeling rather than knowledge, but I would be surprised if it's a 60/40 split to Remain.

ruggedtoast

Masomnia wrote: »

Ha.

Don't worry. Corbyn is backing Brexit, it'll get through the Commons.

None of them vote how he tells them anyway.

beecher2

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Statistically, more would be remain than leave, preferring to maintain the status quo.

This is based on gut feeling rather than knowledge, but I would be surprised if it's a 60/40 split to Remain.

Maybe they just didn't care?

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

Let me explain this one more time.
The only people who will undermine tading witin the 'single' market will be the self inflicted madness of the EU27, in order for some sort of political point scoring.
It won't be the UK

The UK government isn't just after the best deal possible. They go the negotiating table with a political agenda.

I don't know how you can be so sure the UK side won't be up for a bit of political point scoring too given how the referendum was conceived in the first place.