If we vote for Brexit what happens

prosaver

Just found this.
What happens next?
David Cameron's Bill on the EU referendum has been passed by Parliament.


Yes a sovereign state.
So isnt this saying the referendum outcome has already being passed in parliment?

TrickyTree83

MobileSaver wrote: »

On the contrary I know exactly what an abstention is.



You can play around with words and redefine terms to suit your agenda as much as you wish; none of this changes the irrefutable fact that "the majority of the country" did not vote to leave the EU.

It's not playing about with the words I'm afraid.

It's actually how referendums work.

I'm genuinely sorry you refuse to believe me when I try to explain to you how they work. I'm not being creative, I'm just explaining the reality. Clearly I'm unable to help you in realising this.

Can someone else assist?

prosaver

MobileSaver wrote: »

On the contrary I know exactly what an abstention is.



You can play around with words and redefine terms to suit your agenda as much as you wish; none of this changes the irrefutable fact that "the majority of the country" did not vote to leave the EU.

And they did not vote to stay in the Eu,

They stayed at home watching Jeremy kyle or loose women...
Btw some people were not allowed to vote because they weren't uk citizens.

wotsthat

prosaver wrote: »

So isnt this saying the referendum outcome has already being passed in parliment?

No. It's saying article 50 can't be triggered without a motion and vote in parliament or a change in the law.

Can't see the problem myself. If it's been passed by a people's referendum, parliamentary approval and is legal that makes it more legitimate doesn't it?

We're still leaving the EU (probably).

ruggedtoast

Brexit is still going to happen. It just won't be the Brexit tantrumming Kippers want.

May can't go to Parliament for a vote without MP's knowing what they are voting for.

The Brexit means Brexit bollards has to end now and some actual options need to be presented.

Hard Brexit is so damaging to the UK it won't go through.

Sorry Nige. Guess you'll have to wait a bit longer for a British Fourth Reich.

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Brexit is still going to happen. It just won't be the Brexit tantrumming Kippers want.

May can't go to Parliament for a vote without MP's knowing what they are voting for.

The Brexit means Brexit bollards has to end now and some actual options need to be presented.

Hard Brexit is so damaging to the UK it won't go through.

Sorry Nige. Guess you'll have to wait a bit longer for a British Fourth Reich.

We'll be out of the political institutions of the EU though, thankfully.

melanzana

I am not in UK so forgive me.

Surely a vote in Parliament will copperfasten the Brexit result?

Or is there a possibility that MPs might not support the referendum result.

Sorry am confused as you can see!

And also, seems daft to me that those who voted out wished to give more power to Westminster, and are now complaining about the power it has!

Filo25

wotsthat wrote: »

No. It's saying article 50 can't be triggered without a motion and vote in parliament or a change in the law.

Can't see the problem myself. If it's been passed by a people's referendum, parliamentary approval and is legal that makes it more legitimate doesn't it?

We're still leaving the EU (probably).

The only way I could possibly see us not leaving the EU, is if there is a significant change in the public mood on the matter before we complete the process of leaving (and I don't mean a few polls with a narrow lead for people saying they would like to stay).

If that happened there may be circumstances in which you could justify a second referendum, but I think its extremely unlikely to happen, there doesn't seem to be much leavers' regret around!

This was a decision that was pushed out directly to the people and they have given their answer, realistically it could only be overturned by the will of those same people, its not for parliament to overrule, although they certainly should be scrutinising what is happening and working to ensure we get the most favourable outcome possible within the confines of the referendum decision.

CLAPTON

melanzana wrote: »

I am not in UK so forgive me.

Surely a vote in Parliament will copperfasten the Brexit result?

Or is there a possibility that MPs might not support the referendum result.

Sorry am confused as you can see!

And also, seems daft to me that those who voted out wished to give more power to Westminster, and are now complaining about the power it has!

the majority of MP are pro EU and have been for many, many years

what is the purpose of a referendum if parliament over turns the result (even though it clearly has the power to do so).

melanzana

Looking on from afar, I have often wondered if the referendum was held with indecent haste.

If, for example a proper exit road map had been presented warts and all in the campaign, would it have been easier to trigger A50?

I don't think there is or was any plan, as the remainers never thought Brexit would be voted for.

Therein lies the problem. No plan, no strategy, resources not in place to legislate for all the changes needed, uncertainty, ah you know the rest.