If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

melanzana wrote: »

Wouldn't be so bad if it was a Swiss/Nordic entity already.

Sweden is already suffering in case you've missed the news this week. Like other parts of the EU, highly dependent on UK purchasing. This isn't a one sided discussion. The ramifications run far and wide.

Fella

You realise that when you write this:

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Toxic Toastie is a derogation of that username you choose to employ when you arent capable of forming a cogent rebuttal which doesn't resort to childish name calling, which is basically almost all the time.

Then without a pause for breath follow it with this:

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Im just not very keen on small minded ignorant xenophobes.

It makes you look pretty silly yeah?

melanzana

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Sweden is already suffering in case you've missed the news this week. Like other parts of the EU, highly dependent on UK purchasing. This isn't a one sided discussion. The ramifications run far and wide.

But where are the signposts for the ordinary mortals?

Many just do not know nor care what the ramifications of Brexit are.

Control of immigration is the least of the worries. AFAIS

glasgowdan

Everything ok Crashy? Been a few days without a link to some article you hope will make everyone stop buying houses...we miss you!

ruggedtoast

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

To clarify the Toxic one's post, this regards a video taken in May (before the referendum) of an assault.
This follows the recent conviction of that assailant.
Note please the following, from Toxic's link:
Now, I wonder what that poster says about - just as one example from EU-land, mind - the over-800 attacks on refugees homes in Germany so far this year?
https://www.thelocal.de/20161019/800-attacks-against-refugee-homes-reported-this-year

I am in no way condoning even one such assault, be it in the UK or elsewhere.
But you have to admit, the very few occurrences reported in the UK pale into insignificance compared to such numbers in Germany.


P.S.
Given the .......... er .................. "quality" of your posts the nom de plume is admirably accurate.

And you'll be laughing on the other side of your Tam o'Shanter when you're lining up at the border to get into rUK and need a visa because you're considered an undesirable foreigner.

Conrad

melanzana wrote: »

The UK is finished when it leaves the EU.

Wouldn't be so bad if it was a Swiss/Nordic entity already.

But it is going to be a difficult transition.

Mainly because there are unknown unknowns out there, and few known unknowns!

Does any poster here know anything about the mechanisms involved in Brexit? I for sure don't. And I doubt if anyone does.

That is the problem.

All very fine to say we will be OK, but......

It will be a seamless transition, you won't notice a thing.

If in doubt, imagine yourself the German head of Audi or BMW. There won't be a day when suddenly tariffs are added to thier cars, sales hampered and people laid off, it's just not going to happen, all will be well.

Joining was very complex but we did it. We had to alter halve our tax law and far more besides, don't listen to those that say we can't do things, we c an do whatever we want to do

We are taking all existing EU law into UK law, so at a stroke a whole rafte of potential bog down negotiation is removed. It is far less complex than Remoaners say. Trade will carry on as is, we are not asking for anything, that's the difference between us and Xanada, and we are fully aligned with EU rules already

cogito

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And you people wonder why Corbyn is leading the Labour Party.

Not at all. With people like you supporting him, it's quite clear why he's leader although he doesn't seem to agree with you on the Brexit issue.

setmefree2

BobQ wrote: »

Cite the video then. The video you previously sited was of about 7 politicians, it was no means comprehensive of "every single major politician", for example May was not included, neither was Corbyn, or Sturgeon.

So unless you have the evidence you are telling porkies

I'm sure the BBC could have made a longer one but it would have been boring for viewers. I think they made the point.

You are entitled to your opinion. I think you are wrong. I think you are wrong because the opinions polls tell me you are wrong.

If we had a second referendum tomorrow the opinion polls tell us that vote Leave would win.The polls tell us that voters want control over immigration put before access to the single market. The opinion polls tell us that voters are happy with May's approach.

What more evidence do you want?

setmefree2

lisyloo wrote: »

Very good, I didn't know that.
However 50g of loose leaf tea is £9.15 - very expensive.
How many people on low or even middle income families do you think can afford to prioritise principle over price.

I like a sparkling wine called chapel down which is made in England, but it's about £25-£30 a bottle.

It's great to highlight this issue but realistically I don't think most people could afford it.

They make good gifts and are available on Amazon. Christmas is just around the corner - a tea lover in your family might appreciate Cornish tea - or English wine, stuff from Body Shop, Lush or Molton Brown - all products "Made in Britain".

The average British family spends £800 at xmas. One estimate is £22 billion at a country level. Indeed, Brits spend £43 million on presents just for their pets!

However, most Brits don't care where stuff comes from - which is why countries will be queuing up to do trade deals with us! And also why we have the second largest current account deficit in the world.

glasgowdan

Remind me what age the average brexit voter was vs remain? Informed, up to date, modern thinking people with many decades of life to deal with the consequences voted stay.

Silver top stubborn old fashioned and dated thinkers voted leave.

That is the basis for all of this.