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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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What exactly do you mean with this ? You really are a completely deluded person. Scarily so. Trying to reverse the tables and dig dirt at the lowest level, your mindset is so filled with hatred and fear you can not longer even think straight.
It is not my problem that the truth is as it is. It is you who voted for Brexit and you must come to terms with this mindset that has got us where we are today. Be humble, we all make mistakes and sort your jumbled mind out and then do what is right for the country, reverse your terrible decision.
I mean that making uncomplementary generalisation about a race is RACIST
your commentOriginally Posted by Yamumuk View Post
Thought and sophisticated reasoning does not come easy to many in the U.K.
it is of course likely that you are too stupid to recognise that.0 -
Poppycock.
Not all Tory voters wanted Brexit but can you really see them not voting for their party at a general election?
I should point out that I voted remain but am not asking for a second vote. We voted out and so we must leave. The only question is what sort of deal we'll get out of it. I know many remainers and only one of them wants a revote. Most are just concerned about what trade deals (if any) we get out of it.
Duh. Of course tory voters vote tory. They won the election because of the number of floating voters that voted tory. It's beyond question that lots of them voted Tory because they wanted a referendum on the EU. 17.5 million people voted to leave the EU. Do you really think none of them voted Tory in order to get that vote? Seriously? You do get that the Tories won by a very narrow margin yeah?
So no, not poppycock, actually a sensible point you've failed to understand.0 -
Now the UK is out let's get on with the real work.
http://www.politico.eu/article/jean-claude-junckers-social-agenda-europe-commission-president/
"With the U.K. preparing to leave, Juncker wants to give a new push to the “European pillar of social rights” — a proposal he first mentioned nearly a year ago. The measures, aimed primarily at the eurozone but with non-euro countries able to opt-in if they wish, include rules on the minimum wage and to protect gender equality — policies long considered out-of-bounds for Brussels.
As he fights for free trade deals and measures to boost economic growth and competitiveness, the Commission president also wants to add a “social” dimension to EU policy. Introducing the idea in his State of the Union address to the European Parliament last September, Juncker said he wanted to build a new EU social policy that “takes account of the changing realities of the world of work.”
Juncker backed Belgium’s Marianne Thyssen, the European commissioner in charge of employment, social affairs and labor mobility, to push the initiative, and she’s spent the past few months gauging support for the possible changes in EU countries with NGOs, business groups and trade unions."
surprised they haven't decided to standardise their health services to provide it as universal free at the point of delivery
or a standardised criminal justice system (obviously without trial by jury of ones peers)
and fascinating how much damage a high minimum wage will do to Greece
fascinating times in EUland0 -
the government is sufficiently sure that there won’t be tariffs either way that it could make ‘robust assurances, but be fully confident they won’t be called in’
Interesting.
Especially when combined with Theresa May stating....
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-may-talks-idUSKCN12L1KV?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews"We want to have the best possible deal for trade in goods and services with, and operation within, the single European market," she said.
The term "operate within" the single market is a new incantation for May, who since becoming prime minister has been focused first on shoring up support in her ruling Conservative Party before launching the negotiations with the EU.
If the plan is ultimately to stay within the single market then problem solved for almost everyone....
Except the anti-immigration crowd of course... but they've all been desperately trying to rebrand their motives as "sovereignty" for the last few months anyway so it would be a bit embarrassing to change tack now.
“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Wow - the cognitive dissonance being displayed by some of you in this thread is absolutely remarkable.
You've collectively gone from a pre-Brexit vote position of....
- The EU is undemocratic and authoritarian
- France and Germany dominate everyone else
and
- Politicians can never be trusted to use a veto in their national interests
All the way to the current position which now seems to have changed 180 degrees to....
- Democracy is bad
- The EU offers too much control to individual countries
and
- Vetoes are used too often
Honestly - you couldn't make it up!!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
You just did make it up. You addressed your remarks directly to me and made up the reasons why you think that I supported Brexit.
You're straw manning yet again.0 -
My general impression formed over nearly four months of posting on this and many other sites about Brexit is that the MAJORITY of Brexiteers who POST wish harm to the EU.
It frankly does not matter what any one might say now. That is the impression I have now FIRMLY FIXED IN MY MIND.
Living as I do in another EU state that is beginning to effect the way I think about the outcome of the post A50 negotiations.
You might wonder what the leaders of the other 27 EU countries are thinking right now. There has always been a lot of goodwill shown to the UK. Special deals and rebates have been demanded, negotiated and then excepted.
Everyone involved in this debate needs to focus on the future. I don't think Britain will get a better deal by rubbishing the club they are leaving.
I would ask that all on this thread concentrate and try not to
be so negative about the EU.
Not be so negative about Britain out of the EU.
We are where we are.
Yes by all means paste a crowing entry about the good or bad news as you see it. But remember Britain has to get along with its near neighbours and bad mouthing them will not build bridges to the future.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
My general impression formed over nearly four months of posting on this and many other sites about Brexit is that the MAJORITY of Brexiteers who POST wish harm to the EU.
It frankly does not matter what any one might say now. That is the impression I have now FIRMLY FIXED IN MY MIND.
One has to 'admire ' some-one that openly admits to such bigotry and prejudice.
No point in arguing the point as you say that your bigotry is unmoveable.0 -
We're out already?Now the UK is out let's get on with the real work.
Did I blink and miss it?
Strange because according to the EU we have to do some Article 50 thing or other and then get punished, no?
Er, try telling that to the likes of Juncker and Tusk before preaching on here?Yes by all means paste a crowing entry about the good or bad news as you see it. But remember Britain has to get along with its near neighbours and bad mouthing them will not build bridges to the future.
After all, Juncker's reaction at the summit yesterday evening could not exactly be described as "getting along" even with the best will in the world.
"Pfft" about sums it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK8AG2iw--80 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Interesting.
Especially when combined with Theresa May stating....
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-may-talks-idUSKCN12L1KV?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
If the plan is ultimately to stay within the single market then problem solved for almost everyone....
Except the anti-immigration crowd of course... but they've all been desperately trying to rebrand their motives as "sovereignty" for the last few months anyway so it would be a bit embarrassing to change tack now.
Oh right, so now it's gone from being forecast (by you!) as a hard brexit, ignoring that negotiations will take place (and thus your unwavering support for Scottish independence) toIf the plan is ultimately to stay within the single market then problem solved for almost everyone....
Are you now conceding that you don't know what the plan is and all that guff on the Scotland thread is, well... guff?0
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