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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    edited 22 October 2016 at 7:41PM
    She didn't say anything stupid. She explained how she was feeling. That she felt unwanted since the vote, a feeling which was immediately confirmed by a bunch of pig ignorant tiny minded bigots shouting at her.

    Any insult was in your head. Much like the threat from immigrants only exists in Brexitards heads.

    Brexit is a response to a problem that primarily exists in the imaginations of morons.

    Take a look again at what she said. Get a transcript and then tell me she was purely talking about how she felt and not what she thought people voting to leave wanted to do to her.

    As I said, so crazy it's almost like she was a paid stooge. I know plenty of EU nationals, I know leave voters, none expect to be kicked out or want to kick people out. This is in the minds of hysterical liberals and the media who need a headline, daily.

    Edit: put it this way. I'd be happy with EEA/EFTA and I would boo her for what she said about UK leave voters. I'm no xenophobe.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    on trade deals for the UK and to get all 27 countries to agree and not 1 to veto it,
    is going to be like that game on bbc,, pointless,when it has to go to zero.

    question...
    how many countries veto'ed "we must have straight bananas?"
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Take a look again at what she said. Get a transcript and then tell me she was purely talking about how she felt and not what she thought people voting to leave wanted to do to her.

    As I said, so crazy it's almost like she was a paid stooge. I know plenty of EU nationals, I know leave voters, none expect to be kicked out or want to kick people out. This is in the minds of hysterical liberals and the media who need a headline, daily.

    Edit: put it this way. I'd be happy with EEA/EFTA and I would boo her for what she said about UK leave voters. I'm no xenophobe.

    Every European I know is appalled by Brexit and feels like they aren't welcome. She just said what they all think.

    I'm sorry but as soon as you start apologising for xenophobia you are a xenophobe. And you attained that status very early into this discussion.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    prosaver wrote: »
    on trade deals for the UK and to get all 27 countries to agree and not 1 to veto it,
    is going to be like that game on bbc,, pointless,when it has to go to zero.

    question...
    how many countries veto'ed "we must have straight bananas?"

    I don't think any countries expressed an opinion about straight bananas considering that trope is a myth.

    The fact that Brexitards still espouse such trivial nonsense as a reason for leaving the EU, and actually appear to believe it, makes one wonder how they would have voted if they knew anything about the topic.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Rubbish.

    Say stupid things, expect a reaction.

    Would have thought some on here would have been used to that by now.

    She said stupid things, and got a reaction. The things she said were inflammatory towards leave voters it wouldn't surprise me if she was a plant the things she said were so stupid. Claiming 17m people want her out of the country.

    You can use intelligent arguments like "rubbish" if you wish.

    I grant you that the audience reacted to her comment about the 52% not wanting immigrants, but that is what the triumphalism of the Brexit supporters has led to and that is the point of her comment. She has lived here for 23 years, married a British man, raised a family and now finds herself castigated for using the Polish language. She seemed to me to be a sensible person with a coherent argument considering she was being heckled, interrupted by Dimbleby and continually spoken over by the ill mannered UKIP spokeswoman. She has integrated fully into this her adopted country and now feels threatened by it, and you call her stupid.

    The ignorance of the Hartlepool audience had to be seen to be believed. One person in the audience was blaming the EU rules for the Syrian refugee problem for heaven sake. Others believed that the 52% had spoken and the Government should just leave without any negotiation whatever the consequences. We are in this mess because democracy requires that thick people be allowed a vote. I support their right to do so, but to hear you call the Polish woman stupid in that audience beggars belief.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    I don't think any countries expressed an opinion about straight bananas considering that trope is a myth.

    The fact that Brexitards still espouse such trivial nonsense as a reason for leaving the EU, and actually appear to believe it, makes one wonder how they would have voted if they knew anything about the topic.
    :beer:
    im still waiting for world war 3 and emergency budget.:beer:
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 22 October 2016 at 8:07PM
    Every European I know is appalled by Brexit and feels like they aren't welcome. She just said what they all think.

    I'm sorry but as soon as you start apologising for xenophobia you are a xenophobe. And you attained that status very early into this discussion.

    and yet there all those migrants being welcomed in France, provided with housing, benefits, housing, jobs, schooling, protection etc but all want to come to the UK : how is that possible?:

    how does any civilised country in the EU allow children to be trafficed, exploited in the jungle which is under French sovereignty: any decent person would condemn the French authorities : such neglect would be unthinkable here

    mind you, toxic toastie, will continue to insult his parents, praise the disgusting neglect of vulnerable children by the French authorities, celebrate the homeophobic Polish, Latvian, Lithuanian etc authorities

    and yet all the Europhiles find no words of condemnation of the vile authorities in these countries and find hatred and fault with the ever generuous people of the UK.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    how can people pick random peoples quotes up and use it as gospel.
    clegg use to say that a lot..'and man said to me the other day...'
    its funny saying that Im half immigrant (irish) and if someone says a thing about the Irish ..I dont go all testicular ..come on
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Oh look, you get similar reactions against Brummies; Geordies; Welsh; Scousers ........... indeed a long list of regions inside the UK.

    Are you equally disgusted with people taking a similar stance against these too?

    So please give me an example of anyone suggesting that Geordies feel unwelcome in Britain? Or Scousers feel they are being asked to leave?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
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