If we vote for Brexit what happens

Yamumuk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37652467

Don't worry though I am sure some Brexiter will explain this away as something with some fantasy silver lining from the make believe world they live in.

I think the G.B. should be renamed now.... Great Cloud Cuckoo Land seems about right.

Yamumuk

CLAPTON wrote: »

I agree that politicans of all parties tell blatant lies. Grown up people reluctantly accept this.
You may think people don't deserve democracy and you are entitled to hold you totalitarian views
You may think that other people who don't agree with you are ignorant but you show your ignorance and bigotry in virtually every post.
You clearly have a hatred of UK democracy and that is your choice : maybe you see a better model elsewhere.

I voted for free trade : you voted for protectionism and tariffs
I voted to treat all countries equally in terms of trade and immigration : you vote to discriminate against most non white, non christian non european countries.

You did not vote for free trade. You voted for something which you had absolutely no idea what the effects of were going to be and that have still yet to be decided upon. And it seems you will have NO say whatsoever in what happens.

I understood that this is likely to make things much worse for the most vulnerable, lowest paid and on benefits in this society and voted accordingly.

Instead of voting for stability you voted for yourself. You voted for chaos, its coming, in fact it is here.

CLAPTON

Yamumuk wrote: »

You did not vote for free trade. You voted for something which you had absolutely no idea what the effects of were going to be and that have still yet to be decided upon. And it seems you will have NO say whatsoever in what happens.

I understood that this is likely to make things much worse for the most vulnerable, lowest paid and on benefits in this society and voted accordingly.

Instead of voting for stability you voted for yourself. You voted for chaos, its coming, in fact it is here.

you voted for protectionist trade policies
and you vote for racist trade and immigration policies

you don't approve of parliamentary democracy

if you really think chaos is here you are deranged

bobobski

Yamumuk wrote: »

"a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions"

When that opinion is formed through lies and manipulation and an undemocratic process (blatent lies should not be acceptable as part of a working democracy) it is called common sense. peace is vital over and above all. Voting Brexit was voting for changing the status quo in a manner of which they had no comprehension of the result due largely to ignorance, a status quo which has served us very well in terms of peace and trade and prosperity. More important, by far than some cheap imports.

Look to the government who will now be extremely exposed when they cut rights and deepen the gap between haves and have not's.

There is nowhere to hide, you voted for people being worse off and will have to live with that.

I for one am getting tired of being treated as an idiot who couldn't see through the lies on BOTH sides of the debate. Brexit was something I wanted for years, formed through my studies of economics and law. Yes some people were misled, on BOTH sides - that does not mean that I am a moron who blindly voted. My reasons were similar to those stated above: the EU is discriminatory and anti-globalisation. On top of that, it has destroyed parliamentary sovereignty and, to a certain extent, democracy.

So please stop with the sweeping comments about "Brexiters" being racist idiots.

I forgot to add: I know several people who blindly voted remain, because that's what their friends told them to do, and I don't know anyone who blindly voted leave.

And for a lighthearted touch: "are you a Unilever or a Uniremainer?" <-- little joke I heard this week.

cogito

CLAPTON wrote: »

At the moment is seems to be the EU who will decide whether they will levy tariffs on UK products like they do on most of the rest of the world.

Not necessarily. All we need to do is to announce that we will not impose tariffs on EU imports but if the EU imposes tariffs on imports from the UK, we will reciprocate. Who would be hurt most by that?

Thrugelmir

Yamumuk wrote: »

I don;t buy the pound was over valued BS. That is just people on the back foot from their own voting stupidity/responsibility.

What's to buy? This has been a topic of conversation for a very long time. What's your view on the balance of trade deficit or the budget deficit? The BOE couldn't shield the UK for ever with it's monetary policy of creating money.

Ballard

cogito wrote: »

Not necessarily. All we need to do is to announce that we will not impose tariffs on EU imports but if the EU imposes tariffs on imports from the UK, we will reciprocate. Who would be hurt most by that?

Everyone who buys anything.

Thrugelmir

Ballard wrote: »

Everyone who buys anything.

Source products from elsewhere. Vehicles and agriculture are easily replaceable.

cogito

Ballard wrote: »

Everyone who buys anything.

Indeed but as we are forever being reminded by Remainers, we buy a lot more of their stuff than they buy of ours.


The EU can't be stupid enough to impose tariffs can they? Probably they could if idiots like Donald Tusk are to be believed.

Thrugelmir

Ballard wrote: »

It's certainly not true that no one cares when jobs go abroad. Quite the opposite as far as I'm concerned.

Financially it makes a huge difference though. If a company stops employing in the U.K. and 500 people earning an average of £25,000 lose their job then it's a massive hit for the local economy. If a bank moves out of London and 500 people earning an average of £75,000 lose their jobs then not only is that terrible locally but it starts being a big hit nationally.

I have long had a feeling that for a significant number of brexiteers voting to leave was in part a way to get their own back on the bankers for the problems that a minority of them have caused.

Perhaps care was the wrong word. Ultimately there's a shrug of the shoulders. As what could be done. In the US there would be a boycott of the Company's products. As they appreciate the value of jobs to their own local economy. Putting cheap prices first isn't a sustainable model. There has to be a degree of compromise.

Banks are culling their staff in their thousands. The effects of which haven't been felt yet. Deutsche bank announced 10% cut this week around 10,000 jobs. Cutting back as everyone else is. As intra bank trading activity continues to decline. An activity which adds no value to the wider economy.