walked out of jobcentre work experience

xapprenticex

Marktheshark wrote: »

This grubby company needs those with a few morals still left to boycott them.

HA! Depending on what standard of morals you live by, that can be a very subjective thing.

BigAunty

jjjjj_ttt wrote: »

I know I am going to get sanctioned.

Members on the benefit forum may be able to advice. Unfortunately, it can get a little judgemental there but there are also posters who know their stuff.

jjjjj_ttt wrote: »

should I have just stuck it out for 8 weeks ??

What is the alternative?

Do you think your morale is low and pride is battered and that's why you over-reacted or do you believe your actions were justified?

You clearly felt put down and put out.

LittleVoice

jjjjj_ttt wrote: »

I wasn't given a locker again the other 2 were I was expected to leave my bag and coat in the staff room.

What was in the bag? Valuables or things like a book and a sandwich?


I don't know your gender but as men tend to use wallets kept on their person, perhaps you are female without trouser or jacket pockets for your money, credit card, mobile phone.


If there were valuables in the bag and you couldn't keep them on you, why didn't you ask for a supervisor to take responsibility for them?


People working on tills are sometimes not allowed to have pockets in their clothing but you said you weren't going to be allowed to work on the tills so that shouldn't have prevented your keeping things with you.

topaztiger1983

red_devil wrote: »

the reasons will be good enough.

when people are on placement they are meant to be treated as staff its in the rules. Were Poundland going to replace the bag and contents also if stolen.

Disgusting Company taking people on when they should be paying them.

I work for KFC (paid staff) and we don't get lockers, our coats and bags are left in the unlocked store room in the restaurant, so some companies have i better than others

patman99

Well done op. It takes some guts to walk out on a workfare scheme placement.

As I mentioned in one of your other posts, the JC have to treat the first week of such schemes a voluntary and as such, cannot legally sanction you for quiting within that first week.

Had you waited until the first day of the 2nd week, then this would have been treated as non-voluntary and you would have been given a sanction.

chuckley

Well done OP. more people need to do this. I can't believe the job centre are forcing folks into these commercial slave labour jobs. 40 hour weeks with zero money, masked as 'volunteering'. Absolute filth.

and sanctioning if you refuse.

I'm amazed this is legal. but then again...

andygb

ANYONE who has criticised the OP on here, is in my humble opinion a disgusting person with no morals.

I will qualify that statement by saying that you see nothing wrong with a person looking for work - paid work, being forced into working for no pay, and thus increasing the profits of a very wealthy person.

You are disgusting people!

topaztiger1983

FYI, OP this is not totally aimed at you (although I don't agree with what you did)

I think that the system could work if there was a clear offer of a permanent paid position if the candidate is right for the job

Maybe the option is just to sit around and do nothing and wait for the job to find you, that in my opinion is contemptible, not the fact that people actually have to do something for their benefits

I think that too many people have got it to easy on benefits and now the DWP & JC+ want to do something to make people do something for their benefits not sit on their asses all day, many people have got very uptight about it

Maybe make people do menial jobs like litter picking or that kind of thing (community service type stuff), maybe some people would be less inclined to be lazy

andygb

topaztiger1983 wrote: »

Maybe make people do menial jobs like litter picking or that kind of thing (community service type stuff), maybe some people would be less inclined to be lazy

Unemployed people are not criminals you muppet - they just cannot get a job:mad:
I started work in 1975, and at times had two jobs and worked 14 hour days - now I cannot get a job - is that so difficult to understand?????

marleyboy

Work experience and voluntary work I am all for, workfare would be fair, if it were with a non profiting organisation, either college or a funded scheme. As such these schemes are little more than slave labour.

I remember doing a 2 Year YTS after leaving school, I absolutely loved the experience and qualification I gained whilst on it. However, had it been working in the then 50p shop on full time, with absolutely ZERO pay, not only would I have hated every moment of it, I wouldn't agree to it.

Someone piped out that those on benefits SHOULD be satisfied about gaining the experience. Try telling that to the bank manager who has worked all his\her life and paid into a system that guaranteed they would pay out if they were to be made redundant, so long as they pay into it in the first place.

Why should I pay into a system that guarantees me a voluntary job WITHOUT pay in a demeaning job such as Poundland if I lose my job and struggle to get back on my feet? If that's the case, I want nothing to do with paying into it in the first place.

On the same coin, why should Poundland bother to employ ANYONE, if they can simply get a boat load of staff, working for free, courtesy of the welfare? Something just does not sit right in any of it.

I am all for giving the unemployed, a recognised qualification, work experience, on or off the job training, knowing they stand a better chance in diversifying or upgrading what qualifications they may have, to help better them for getting a job. But NOT throwing them into forced labour just to make the unemployment figures look good.