walked out of jobcentre work experience

jjjjj_ttt

thanks everyone i am off to the jobcentre now so we will see.

FBaby

when people are on placement they are meant to be treated as staff its in the rules. Were Poundland going to replace the bag and contents also if stolen.

That's a terrible attitude. OP walked out after only a few hours. For all he didn't know, Poundland had not been informed that he was starting that day and were in the process of finding out why and getting things ready for him.

Or maybe the other people had a much better attitude so they were prepared to let them go on the till right away whereas they had concerned about OP so wanted to supervise him to get assurance before giving him the same opportunity.

Walking out of a job, whether paid or not after only a few hours does fully deserved a sanction. It's very poor judgement and just inappropriate working behaviour. OP, you might to learn that the world doesn't revolve around you and that sometimes, you have to take breath, show a bit of patience and listen before you go on a huff about things.

Flyonthewall

jjjjj_ttt wrote: »

I was sent to pounland to to some "volunteering" I started yesterday there was 3 of us starting but the other 2 were paid staff.

when I arrived I was told that I would not be using tills as work experience are not allowed?
the other 2 where put straight on tills to be trained.

It requires cash handling. The paid workers may have had DBS checks done and/or previous experience in that. Plus as members of staff they probably switch the jobs around so training is needed, whereas you were only volunteering so you're more likely to do other jobs where people just need a hand and they're not spending time training someone who won't be there long.

I don't think there's any legal thing that stops them, but it may be company policy that volunteers aren't allowed.

I wasn't given a locker again the other 2 were I was expected to leave my bag and coat in the staff room.

That seems unfair, you'd think that they'd have a locker for volunteers.

I didn't even get given the uniform, again the other 2 were

I would have thought they'd want all their staff in uniform. I'm surprised they don't have spares for such situations. Although is it possible you would have been given one another day, but they were just waiting because they didn't have a third uniform at that time?

then the woman who I was put with to show me what to do, said why are you doing work experience at your age

I then heard her talking about me to another member of staff.

Staff talk. That doesn't make it right, but they do. Was she saying horrible things?

so I just walked out.

I don't like being treated differently do other staff just because they will be getting paid and I wont.
and I didn't feel safe leaving all my stuff in the staff room

I know I am going to get sanctioned.

should I have just stuck it out for 8 weeks ??

I don't blame you walking out and it's not right that they have people doing paid jobs for free.

It's not right to treat people differently. However, there could be a reason for some of it. At the very least you should have spoken to someone about it rather than just walked out.

Yes, you'll probably get sanctioned. You can appeal, but they may not overturn it as, although it was a rubbish experience, nothing major/really bad happened to cause you to walk out without a word.

If you want a chance at overturning the appeal you may have to do some research. See if you can find anything about leaving valuables and company responsibility, for example.

McKneff

Walking out of a job for any reason is childish and irresponsible.


You should have talked about it to someone in the shop like an adult would.

martinsurrey

Flyonthewall wrote: »

I don't blame you walking out and it's not right that they have people doing paid jobs for free.

and here's me thinking that unemployed people getting work experience while giving them housing benefit, job seekers allowance, free dentistry, free prescriptions, no council tax and a host of other benefits was a good idea...

silly me.

FredG

martinsurrey wrote: »

and here's me thinking that unemployed people getting work experience while giving them housing benefit, job seekers allowance, free dentistry, free prescriptions, no council tax and a host of other benefits was a good idea...

silly me.

A person does not belong to the state and we all contribute to make these benefits available for those who need them.

The day the state owns people will be a very bad day indeed.


On topic - the OP is really going to need to have a strong case to avoid a sanction and that's going to be difficult. Regardless of how I feel or the OP feels, the rules are the rules.

martinsurrey

FredG wrote: »

A person does not belong to the state and we all contribute to make these benefits available for those who need them.

The day the state owns people will be a very bad day indeed.


On topic - the OP is really going to need to have a strong case to avoid a sanction and that's going to be difficult. Regardless of how I feel or the OP feels, the rules are the rules.

the state does not "own them" at all, OP is free to walk out and face the consequences, life is all about choices and consequences...

but I agree, back to the point, you are right its going to be hard slog to avoid a sanction.

Flyonthewall

martinsurrey wrote: »

and here's me thinking that unemployed people getting work experience while giving them housing benefit, job seekers allowance, free dentistry, free prescriptions, no council tax and a host of other benefits was a good idea...

silly me.

There's a difference between volunteering for a non-profit organisation and working for free for a company such as Poundland.

A trial of a week or two before a guaranteed job offer so long as they could do the job would be one thing, but this is 8 weeks forced unpaid work for a company that should be paying all its staff with no job at the end.

It's been in the media for the past few years that they are breaching laws by forcing people to do the unpaid work, but they continue it.

POPPYOSCAR

OP


Walking out is not the answer.


If I were you I would have refused to leave my bag unattended and carried it around with me everywhere I went. What would/could they do to you?


You then should have told the jobcentre how they were treating you.

HappyMJ

Flyonthewall wrote: »

There's a difference between volunteering for a non-profit organisation and working for free for a company such as Poundland.

A trial of a week or two before a guaranteed job offer so long as they could do the job would be one thing, but this is 8 weeks forced unpaid work for a company that should be paying all its staff with no job at the end.

It's been in the media for the past few years that they are breaching laws by forcing people to do the unpaid work, but they continue it.

The 8 weeks work experience is voluntary but that won't stop the claimant being referred to the Mandatory Work Activity which is 4 weeks in length.