walked out of jobcentre work experience

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OP: You were lucky to not get sanctioned; you're not allowed to have principles when you are poor--not today, anyway.

If I were you, I'd have stayed in the 'job' and made it economically detrimental to Poundland to keep me employed. Sabotage. Sabotage. Sabotage. Exploit me at your peril.

You do know why they didn't put you on the tills though, right?
Because you are an unpaid worker, and if you were to make an honest mistake by giving the incorrect change (too much) to a customer, they couldn't exactly dock your wages!
And because you are unpaid and poor, and because poor people have no principles, the chances are that mistake would not be an 'honest' one, but rather you giving the incorrect change of an extra tenner to a family member (again, they can't dock you for that!). No, too risky to put unpaid poor people anywhere near the money.

CKhalvashi

topaztiger1983 wrote: »

Ok I partially agree, but would your solution mean big constructions companies doing the same as poundland is, as qualifications are nothing without experience

Experience can be more important than qualifications, but not always so.

Sometimes recency in training, especially with technology, can have a huge benefit, and this is where new graduates are able to come up with some of the best ideas.

At other times, my PA (who is twice my age) can ask if I've thought of x, y or z, and these are things I've not thought about.

We're a technology geared company, however the people behind it, even for non-technical things, need a huge range in who they are/what experiences they've had, to be able to find the best solution to a problem.

If you're going to take people on work experience, then the least you can do is pay them IMO.

FBaby

Here goes another depressing thread about those who take take take, who are unable or unwilling to give back using their own initiatives, and who then go out screaming outrage when they are finally dictated so they can contribute something back to society.

Another thread that shows the number of adults who have failed to learn the most basic social skills that are essential for any level entry jobs, those that parents should be teaching their kids before they even start school. Yet those people who somehow feel they deserve reward despite bringing nothing but problems to the workplace...

BTW, locker??? really? In all the jobs I have done, I have never ever had a locker. I wonder where I would be now if I had walked out of the first place that didn't offer me? Still on JSA, still moaning about how no-one is willing to give me chance and how I deserve the world!

CKhalvashi

No, FBaby, it's about corporates that want to constantly have free labour, with their paid labour subsidised by the government.

I personally don't think that OP's attitude is unacceptable at all, I simply don't think it's right that companies are allowed to treat people that are vulnerable to exploitation in this way, with the explicit support of the government.

The locker part I agree with you on, as long as there's somewhere reasonably secure for OP to chuck their stuff. In an environment where OP isn't working at a desk, I feel it's perfectly reasonable to request one in this situation, though.....

mumps

topaztiger1983 wrote: »

I don't understand peoples unwillingness to work for what they get, many feel it is a given

Also andygb I have been unemployed and I found myself some voluntary work too do so I felt like I was earning my money, I also did a few of the job that JC+ sent me for, so I don't understand the mentality of some people

Unemployed people are sometimes better off than the employed (especially those on NMW), yet they have the audacity to !!!!! and moan about being treated unfairly, I too have worked 12 - 14 hour days, so don't be giving me none of your idiocy, maybe it is you my friend that is the muppet

I don't understand some employers unwillingness to pay people for the work they do.

missbiggles1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

It helps because you need to have some respect and confidence in yourself when applying for jobs and avoiding slaving away for a company that should be paying you helps greatly with that.

It also gives you the time to actually do the job searching.

How is it ever a bad thing to not let people exploit you for their own gains?

When somebody who's long term unemployed starts shouting their head off about their rights and telling employers where to get off, it's perfectly reasonable to question whether it's their attitude that's responsible for their long term unemployment.

If you want to claim JSA you have to play by the rules, if you don't want to do this then you have the other option.:D

stugib

missbiggles1 wrote: »

If you want to claim JSA you have to play by the rules, if you don't want to do this then you have the other option.:D

So there's no limit in your eyes as to what the Government can require of job seekers, as long as they're "the rules"?

Westbeef

jjjjj_ttt wrote: »

I was sent to pounland to to some "volunteering" I started yesterday there was 3 of us starting but the other 2 were paid staff.

when I arrived I was told that I would not be using tills as work experience are not allowed?
the other 2 where put straight on tills to be trained.

I wasn't given a locker again the other 2 were I was expected to leave my bag and coat in the staff room.

I didn't even get given the uniform, again the other 2 were

then the woman who I was put with to show me what to do, said why are you doing work experience at your age

I then heard her talking about me to another member of staff.

so I just walked out.

I don't like being treated differently do other staff just because they will be getting paid and I wont.
and I didn't feel safe leaving all my stuff in the staff room

I know I am going to get sanctioned.

should I have just stuck it out for 8 weeks ??

If you need a job you've just got to suck it up, even when you're employed can easily be made to feel the way you did in certain jobs.

FredG

Seems people are still falling for the scrounger narrative. The top 1% laugh as the poor and middle class kick each other in the genitals.

This country....

Flyonthewall

missbiggles1 wrote: »

When somebody who's long term unemployed starts shouting their head off about their rights and telling employers where to get off, it's perfectly reasonable to question whether it's their attitude that's responsible for their long term unemployment.

If you want to claim JSA you have to play by the rules, if you don't want to do this then you have the other option.:D

Agreed, but no one's doing that here...

You do, but do you see the key point there. Play. It's all just a game with the JC. It's not somewhere you go to get help finding a job, it's more like an unfair game of monopoly.

Pass Go, collect your JSA. Go to Jail, do not pass Go (sanction). Land on the train station, next roll is where your interview is. Go to xxx, collect JSA if you pass Go (a sign on day). Sometimes though you get a get of jail free card (appeal). The thing is you can never win because the JC already have all hotels up everywhere from the start and you just keep landing on them (in other words going to the JC to sign on, going to the WP, going to other companies to "volunteer" etc).

I'm hoping you've played monopoly, it's one of the most popular board games, but if not I'm basically saying the game's set up in their favour from the start.

It's not a fair game and it's not one anyone wants to play that way.