walked out of jobcentre work experience

fierystormcloud

Yes of course any experience is better than none, and it will look good on your C.V. that you worked for 8 weeks doing voluntary work. But in POUNDLAND for goodness sake? How is that going to further anyone's career or life prospects? I would much rather work for an animal sanctuary or in a school or for a theatre or something. And as some people have said, it's disgusting that Poundland (and companies like them,) use people in this manner, with no intention whatsoever of offering them a job. Although I can't imagine anyone's life dream being to be the Manager of Poundland.

Also I have to add that I find it somewhere between hilarious and ludicrous that someone who has worked and 'paid into the system' for a mere 15 months, is taking the moral high ground on this thread; acting like they're superior to the OP because the OP doesn't want to take the unpaid placement at Poundland. Someone who has worked 10-15 years or more has a right to comment on people on benefits refusing to take unpaid work for 'experience;' someone who has worked for a mere 15 months, does NOT.

15 months?! I have had food in my freezer longer than that!

Flyonthewall

tomtontom wrote: »

No, you're missing the point. There is always an alternative to playing the JSA game, and that is self sufficiency - employment, self employment, savings and insurance for when times are tougher. Anything beyond short term JSA is a choice for the claimant.

How can I miss my point that I made? You missed my point and have now created your own point, that's not me missing the point.

It's not that simple. If it were no one would be on JSA. This board is a very clear example that long term JSA is not always a choice for the claimant.

JSA shouldn't be a game, it should be a helping point to getting to employment/self-employment. You can't create them things out of nothing and just decide to do that rather than go on JSA, it just doesn't work that way.

missbiggles1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

No one is "shouting their head off about their rights" they're debating rights. There's no caps. People are stating their opinion and experiences.

No one is "telling employers where to get off" they're just saying that they think they're in the wrong for having "volunteers" and the JC are wrong for sending them there. No one has said anything to the employers or told anyone else to do so regarding anything nasty. They may want to tell the employers that, but they're not.

If you read back, one poster is - that was who I was talking about.

missbiggles1

marleyboy wrote: »

ok, thats 10% of it, lets be generous here and say a massive 40% pays for the policing, roads and maintenance. So where can i ask for a discount, as i am more than happy to live off my own savings if push came to shove.

srp........

tomtontom

marleyboy wrote: »

Ok, thats 10% of it, lets be generous here and say a massive 40% pays for the policing, roads and maintenance. So WHERE can I ask for a discount, as I am more than happy to live off my own savings if push came to shove.

Maybe do some research into how much these things cost. I take it you used NHS maternity services? A friend went private and it cost her £7,000 (outside London, natural birth). Private GP services, £130 a time, plus any tests. Double that for a consultant.

If you've got that much savings maybe you should be employing the OP?

marleyboy

I think the majority in this thread are discussing and debating their rights. Backtracking posts on different, non relevant threads is merely trying to smudge the overall debate IMHO.

missbiggles1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

How can I miss my point that I made? You missed my point and have now created your own point, that's not me missing the point.

It's not that simple. If it were no one would be on JSA. This board is a very clear example that long term JSA is not always a choice for the claimant.

JSA shouldn't be a game, it should be a helping point to getting to employment/self-employment. You can't create them things out of nothing and just decide to do that rather than go on JSA, it just doesn't work that way.

Well, you can certainly create self employment out of nothing - many people do.

If you haven't used your income to save or pay for insurance (I didn't either) then it's obviously too late when you become unemployed.

marleyboy

tomtontom wrote: »

Maybe do some research into how much these things cost. I take it you used NHS maternity services? A friend went private and it cost her £7,000 (outside London, natural birth). Private GP services, £130 a time, plus any tests. Double that for a consultant.

If you've got that much savings maybe you should be employing the OP?

Only when I open a rival to Poundland I can then sit back and watch my profits grow at their expense. I promise to include a locker though

Flyonthewall

missbiggles1 wrote: »

If you read back, one poster is - that was who I was talking about.

Yeah, I can't be bothered to do that, but ok one person out of many on this thread. So we can question the attitude of one and unemployment. The rest are fine and it wasn't worth all these replies over one person lol.

tomtontom

Flyonthewall wrote: »

How can I miss my point that I made? You missed my point and have now created your own point, that's not me missing the point.

It's not that simple. If it were no one would be on JSA. This board is a very clear example that long term JSA is not always a choice for the claimant.

JSA shouldn't be a game, it should be a helping point to getting to employment/self-employment. You can't create them things out of nothing and just decide to do that rather than go on JSA, it just doesn't work that way.

Long term JSA is a choice for far too many. They may not think it is, but they put non existent barriers in their way - the job is too far away/ I'm overqualified/ I can't meet little Johnny from school everyday. Take that attitude into an interview and you're not going to get the job.