walked out of jobcentre work experience

topaztiger1983

FBaby wrote: »

So really OP has little work experience and an attitude...yet think that they deserve payment.

My sentiment exactly, some people need to wake up and smell the coffee

Flyonthewall

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

another one spending more time thinking of how not to have to get a job than anything else.

They're clearly not otherwise they'd never have agreed and gone in the first place.

They had a horrible experience and asked if they should have stuck it out or if they were right to feel how they did, which is a fair question when they were obviously being treated very differently.

They said they knew they'd be sanctioned and did not question how to avoid that so it's not like it was all about getting JSA for doing nothing.

Why would a company pay someone who is costing them more (time of the other person) than the input that person is bringing in? They should consider themselves lucky that they are being taken on in the first place.

Well that wouldn't be the case though would it. If paid they would have done the job, been treated the same and all would be fine.

It's really been a case of you get what you pay for.

They paid nothing, they got nothing. Had they paid them for the job they'd have got a job well done.

Slave labour is not something to be lucky for.

missbiggles1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

They're clearly not otherwise they'd never have agreed and gone in the first place.

They had a horrible experience and asked if they should have stuck it out or if they were right to feel how they did, which is a fair question when they were obviously being treated very differently.

They said they knew they'd be sanctioned and did not question how to avoid that so it's not like it was all about getting JSA for doing nothing.



Well that wouldn't be the case though would it. If paid they would have done the job, been treated the same and all would be fine.

It's really been a case of you get what you pay for.

They paid nothing, they got nothing. Had they paid them for the job they'd have got a job well done.

Slave labour is not something to be lucky for.

I don't really think that not being given a uniform or a locker adds up to "a horrible experience " though. If I were a volunteer (either voluntarily or under compulsion) I wouldn't expect to be treated the same as a proper member of staff, certainly not on the first morning.

red_devil

no doubt there was some mess up in communication by the jobcentre and Poundland. Typical DWP. You would expect to be given a locker otherwise how could you leave your bag safely?:mad:

Also I think that the OP said staff were talking about her very nice (not). Really making her welcome isn't it?:eek:


Workfare replaces paid jobs and is not good. Anyone who works and gets paid, and thinks workfare is great, might remember that one day your firm could replace you with someone on workfare?:eek:

Flyonthewall

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I don't really think that not being given a uniform or a locker adds up to "a horrible experience " though. If I were a volunteer (either voluntarily or under compulsion) I wouldn't expect to be treated the same as a proper member of staff, certainly not on the first morning.

To them it was. That's why they came here and wrote down all that happened that led to them walking out.

missbiggles1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

I never said we were. You're not going to get off JSA walking your neighbours dog once a week for a fiver though and classing yourself as self employed.

That depends. The cost of things can add up. For some the people may have what you need, but they may not. So for garden maintence you're not going to be skipping round the garden picking up the odd leaf by hand and getting £20 an hour. You may need a leaf blower, lawn mower, spade etc. You may need knowledge of flowers too and be able to do some general labour. Payment will probably be rather low to start and you'll start with very few people to do work for and you'll need the equipment before you start.

Not everyone has the skills to set up something like that and even if they do the lack of money can stop them as it often costs more than you'd think to start up. It's fine if you have the skills and a bit of money to use, but otherwise it's just not an option.

Not to mention that competition is very high for a lot of things like that.

An ebay business requires buying stock and it's not as easy as people think. There are those who are selling for a loss and they don't even realise.

I employ someone to do garden maintenance - he has no skills per se but loads of common sense and he uses my tools. If I wanted skills and plant knowledge, I'd employ a gardener and pay more. In the days before I retired I employed a cleaner - no specific skills and she used my vacuum cleaner. My dog walker (again in the past) earned a very good living walking people's dogs, even in the days before tax credits.

You're not really Little Miss Positive about anything, are you?

red_devil

missbiggles1 wrote: »

And how has this attitude helped your jobsearch?

your ignorant about workfare. Read up on the reasons why its wrong?

missbiggles1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

To them it was. That's why they came here and wrote down all that happened that led to them walking out.

If that's his/her idea of a horrible experience then s/he needs to get both a grip and a life! People with that sort of attitude need bucking up, not buckets of cyber sympathy.

red_devil

mumps wrote: »

I don't understand some employers unwillingness to pay people for the work they do.

Exactly if its a company pay someone, If its a charity ask for volunteers genuine volunteers.

Most educated people know whats going on out there and thankfully working for nothing is coming apart.:D

missbiggles1

red_devil wrote: »

your ignorant about workfare. Read up on the reasons why its wrong?

I know a good deal about "workfare" - I also know a good deal about employment.

Many people are offered basic literacy courses before the Work Programme, which can also be a good thing.