walked out of jobcentre work experience

red_devil

FBaby wrote: »

So really OP has little work experience and an attitude...yet think that they deserve payment.

The reality is that many unemployed people, those without any experience or who've been unemployed for a long time actually require a full-time person to be with them at almost all time for them to learn the most basic skills that mean that they could then start doing some work unsupervised.

Why would a company pay someone who is costing them more (time of the other person) than the input that person is bringing in? They should consider themselves lucky that they are being taken on in the first place.

DD is 15 is going to start volunteering working for a nursing home. She has a very good work attitude, learn quickly, and already have some skills. Still she accepts that she doesn't have enough experience to justify payment for some time. She is grateful that she'll be given an opportunity to learn on the job. One thing for certain, she would never walk out after a few hours because she doesn't get a locker because she's already learn that making a good impression is the most important first step to getting a job, clearly one of the many things it would seem OP still needs to learn because he can hope to find someone willing to give him money for his input.

That is slightly different she is at school, looking to go out to work, people being expected to work for free are grown adults.

red_devil

jjjjj_ttt wrote: »

well i didn't get sanctioned and they are now allowing me to volunteer for a charity witch is what i wanted to do in the first place

its sounds like typical DWP incompetence to me.

red_devil

McKneff wrote: »

Walking out of a job for any reason is childish and irresponsible.


You should have talked about it to someone in the shop like an adult would.

it wasn't a job and the poster didn't want to be there and now as it turns out didn't need to be there.

red_devil

tomtontom wrote: »

Long term JSA is a choice for far too many. They may not think it is, but they put non existent barriers in their way - the job is too far away/ I'm overqualified/ I can't meet little Johnny from school everyday. Take that attitude into an interview and you're not going to get the job.

oh here he is again the expert of unemployment and everyones circumstances. No rude personal remarks here though for once though.

Johnnytwostep

tomtontom wrote: »

Long term JSA is a choice for far too many. They may not think it is, but they put non existent barriers in their way - the job is too far away/ I'm overqualified/ I can't meet little Johnny from school everyday. Take that attitude into an interview and you're not going to get the job.

Exactly, they spend more time and effort coming up with reasons (and i use that word in the loosest sense) not to work than they do looking for work.
The gravy train must come to an end.

Flyonthewall

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I employ someone to do garden maintenance - he has no skills per se but loads of common sense and he uses my tools. If I wanted skills and plant knowledge, I'd employ a gardener.In the days before I retired I employed a cleaner - no specific skills and she used my vacuum cleaner. My dog walker (again in the past) earned a very good living walking people's dogs, even in the days before tax credits.

You're not really Little Miss Positive about anything, are you?

Yes, but not every has common sense (sadly) and not everyone has other peoples tools they can use. That may be what you expect, it's not going to be what everyone expects.

Far too many people doing dog walking now. I know someone who seems to be doing really well for it, but for every person doing well there's probably at least 5 others failing to get anywhere because there may be a lot of dogs around, but there's not enough for the number of people wanting to walk them.

I'm realistic. All I'm doing is pointing out the other side to what you're saying. You can be as positive as you want, but that doesn't mean that everyone can suddenly gain self employment and jobs because it just doesn't work that way. Regardless of what we'd like to believe or happen, self employment is just not an option for everyone and people do struggle to gain work.

missbiggles1 wrote: »

If that's his/her idea of a horrible experience then s/he needs to get both a grip and a life! People with that sort of attitude need bucking up, not buckets of cyber sympathy.

Perhaps. We don't know what was said with regards to the other employees. It may have been really upsetting.

Being somewhere you don't really want to be is also not a nice feeling, especially if made to feel different (and possibly worrying about valuables). No excuse at all because they should have spoken to someone and it's possible certain issues would have been sorted. However, in the spur of the moment it may just have felt too much.

Problem is the JC can really alter peoples feelings and thoughts. Confident people are knocked right down. Even the first interview can be a massive blow to confidence if the advisor is clearly judging them and looking down on them and, sadly, it happens all too much.

Based on that experience with the till, locker and uniform and that alone I agree completely with you. However, there may be a bigger picture that totally changes things, we don't know the OP and we weren't there.

red_devil

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

Exactly, they spend more time and effort coming up with reasons (and i use that word in the loosest sense) not to work than they do looking for work.
The gravy train must come to an end.

They who are they? Blatant stereotype if ever I heard one.

Flyonthewall

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

Exactly, they spend more time and effort coming up with reasons (and i use that word in the loosest sense) not to work than they do looking for work.

I get the feeling you're not reading the whole thread and picking random posts to comment on, but I pointed out earlier that that isn't always the case.

The gravy train must come to an end.

If it must come to an end what do you suggest to overcome all barriers, both real and imagined?

red_devil

Flyonthewall wrote: »

I get the feeling you're not reading the whole thread and picking random posts to comment on, but I pointed out earlier that that isn't always the case.



If it must come to an end what do you suggest to overcome all barriers, both real and imagined?

Don't waste your time they are so bloody ignorant. Some of them are downright rude too running people down telling them they have mental health problems and cant spell etc. They may have jobs but they have appaulling personalities, getting off on belittling people and spouting stereotypes.

Flyonthewall

red_devil wrote: »

Don't waste your time they are so bloody ignorant. Some of them are downright rude too running people down telling them they have mental health problems and cant spell etc. They may have jobs but they have appaulling personalities, getting off on belittling people and spouting stereotypes.

Yeah, I know. Seen and replied to a few of their posts.

They seem to jump into the middle of threads, complain, insult and vanish for a while. They're clearly not reading the entire thread though so not sure why they feel the need to post random, pointless comments.