walked out of jobcentre work experience

Marktheshark

If they tried paying the staff a wage, they might not need to "job hunt"

andygb

Marktheshark wrote: »

If they tried paying the staff a wage, they might not need to "job hunt"

That will go over the heads of a lot of people commenting on this thread Mark;)

andygb

dktreesea wrote: »

No one is being forced to do anything. There are plenty of unemployed people who don't bother claiming benefits, because they don't want to have to "perform" in return for them.


It may well be an unemployed person's misfortune to be unemployed, but why shouldn't they have to do something in return for receiving support from other taxpayers? Why should JSA be awarded indefinitely with no obligation to do anything other than look for a job by the recipient?

How about the fact that I paid in 35 years of taxes etc - does that not count for anything?:mad:
Seriously looking for work takes time, as does going for interviews, attending useless jobfairs.

topaztiger1983

maybe they should set different brackets for benefits, (e.g. school leavers, people who have been employed for less than 1 year people who have been employed for more than 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years and so on and so forth), then set different intensities of jobsearch or work programme participation, so as to take into consideration the amount that a person has payed into the system, and are therefore entitled to more lenient measures

I know there will be someone who will find fault with what I have said here

Flyonthewall

topaztiger1983 wrote: »

maybe they should set different brackets for benefits, (e.g. school leavers, people who have been employed for less than 1 year people who have been employed for more than 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years and so on and so forth), then set different intensities of jobsearch or work programme participation, so as to take into consideration the amount that a person has payed into the system, and are therefore entitled to more lenient measures

I know there will be someone who will find fault with what I have said here

They set brackets in terms of certain things already. Under 25s get paid less than those over 25. In theory most under 25s will have worked less years than over 25s because they've had less years in which to work.

I think WP may have different age brackets too sometimes.

They also have set times of doing things. Been there 1 month this happens, 3 months this happens, 6 months this etc. I think 6 months is often the point when many are sent to WPs.

It's maybe not the right system to have, but they do divide people to a point.

andygb

topaztiger1983 wrote: »

maybe they should set different brackets for benefits, (e.g. school leavers, people who have been employed for less than 1 year people who have been employed for more than 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years and so on and so forth), then set different intensities of jobsearch or work programme participation, so as to take into consideration the amount that a person has payed into the system, and are therefore entitled to more lenient measures

I know there will be someone who will find fault with what I have said here

I totally agree with that, but think that the jobcentre would lack the experience and intelligence to oversee such a task:(
I can relate the story of a mate's stepdaughter, who became preggers at 16, had knocked out a couple of kids (possibly by different fathers - who knows?) by 19, never worked in her life and has a very nice, fully furnished flat to her name. She does not have a care in the World:mad:

red_devil

missbiggles1 wrote: »

If it works, I don't care who admires it.:)

it wont work because there wont be enough jobs for all anyway. Its about time the government actually did something to champion Britain and find some work. They do nothing to create jobs, they even cut jobs now. They love bullying and harassing people through their providers. If they can send money abroad they can help the people in this country out of work.

They waste loads of money paying providers, keeping jobcentres open up and down the country which do nothing, paying about three Security Guards to stand in each one doing nothing. They have it all wrong. Camerons has just got a private plane even the queen dosent have that. Scummy government even started on the Tax credits now.

red_devil

andygb wrote: »

I totally agree with that, but think that the jobcentre would lack the experience and intelligence to oversee such a task:(
I can relate the story of a mate's stepdaughter, who became preggers at 16, had knocked out a couple of kids (possibly by different fathers - who knows?) by 19, never worked in her life and has a very nice, fully furnished flat to her name. She does not have a care in the World:mad:

Jobcentre are so icompetent they couldn't organise a !!!! up in a brewery.

red_devil

topaztiger1983 wrote: »

maybe they should set different brackets for benefits, (e.g. school leavers, people who have been employed for less than 1 year people who have been employed for more than 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years and so on and so forth), then set different intensities of jobsearch or work programme participation, so as to take into consideration the amount that a person has payed into the system, and are therefore entitled to more lenient measures

I know there will be someone who will find fault with what I have said here

shows what you don't know. Long term unemployed are treated differently to people short term unemployed?

missbiggles1

andygb wrote: »

How about the fact that I paid in 35 years of taxes etc - does that not count for anything?:mad:
Seriously looking for work takes time, as does going for interviews, attending useless jobfairs.

Most people manage to do all of the above whilst holding down a full time job, as I'm sure you've done previously.