Tesco Shoplifting - need help.

JReacher1

hollydays wrote: »

If you stop someone you have not had continuos observation on and arrest them you have committed a false arrest .
No shop would ever suggest you stop someone because another member of staff tells you to-it's legal suicide. No I have no allegiance at all to tesco never shop their either-all shops broadly have the same rules

Lol " you can legally stop someone even if you've lost sight of them for a few minutes. " are you really that daft?
Shoplifters pass good on or dump them you fool
Organised shoplifting teams would love you..:rotfl:

I think these organised shop lifting teams would love you more than me. If you see someone put something in their pocket, go round the corner so you lose sight of them for thirty seconds then you won't stop them!

So to clarify if you're working at tesco on the door and you get a radio call from a member of staff saying that the person walking past you has put something in their pocket you wouldn't stop them as its "legal suicide".

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

JReacher1

hollydays wrote: »

And would you be happy if your 15 year old daughter was left on her own in a room with a male security guard. No and shops don't allow it. it's gross misconduct

I wouldn't be happy about it but still you seem to be getting confused again about what the law is and what Tesco's policy is....

Obviously the store would be open for accusations of misconduct but it doesn't mean that the 15 year old girl will be found innocent of the crime she is suspected of.

hollydays

JReacher1 wrote: »

I think these organised shop lifting teams would love you more than me. If you see someone put something in their pocket, go round the corner so you lose sight of them for thirty seconds then you won't stop them!

So to clarify if you're working at tesco on the door and you get a radio call from a member of staff saying that the person walking past you has put something in their pocket you wouldn't stop them as its "legal suicide".

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Correct. Because they could for example have an accomplice outside who they've passed the goods to. This happens frequently .
If you haven't followed your company procedures and you commit a false arrest-you'll possibly be on your own..

No of course security staff don't take the word of Betty from the fresh fish section as she's had no training...

hollydays

JReacher1 wrote: »

I wouldn't be happy about it but still you seem to be getting confused again about what the law is and what Tesco's policy is....

Obviously the store would be open for accusations of misconduct but it doesn't mean that the 15 year old girl will be found innocent of the crime she is suspected of.

You show me a security guard who's happy to take a young girl into a room on her own and shoplifting is the least of the stores problems..criminals know the law and will use it to their own benefit.

JReacher1

hollydays wrote: »

Correct. Because they could for example have an accomplice outside who they've passed the goods to. This happens frequently .
If you haven't followed your company procedures and you commit a false arrest-you'll possibly be on your own..

No of course security staff don't take the word of Betty from the fresh fish section as she's had no training...

So you would let them walk out even though another member of staff (which could be a security guard in a control room watching CCTV) tells you they've nicked something? :rotfl:

And you have the cheek to say that shop lifters would love me :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

JReacher1

hollydays wrote: »

You show me a security guard who's happy to take a young girl into a room on her own and shoplifting is the least of the stores problems..criminals know the law and will use it to their own benefit.

No they probably won't.

You are however missing the point (as always). Which is if tesco don't follow the procedures in their handbook it doesn't mean that the initial case against the suspect is thrown out. They will be open to accusations of misconduct but that is separate to the initial crime.

You do make me laugh. Your naive view of the importance that the courts take of Tesco's company policy has certainly brightened up my Sunday!

hollydays

JReacher1 wrote: »

So you would let them walk out even though another member of staff (which could be a security guard in a control room watching CCTV) tells you they've nicked something? :rotfl:

And you have the cheek to say that shop lifters would love me :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

We've now decided it's not a member of staff who " saw something" but a member of security on a camera?

hollydays

JReacher1 wrote: »

No they probably won't.

You are however missing the point (as always). Which is if tesco don't follow the procedures in their handbook it doesn't mean that the initial case against the suspect is thrown out. They will be open to accusations of misconduct but that is separate to the initial crime.

You do make me laugh. Your naive view of the importance that the courts take of Tesco's company policy has certainly brightened up my Sunday!

I await to hear from all the staff who agree with you. Bless..
I'd say, carry on taking young girls into rooms with you.
It's clearly acceptable to you, though the police themselves would never do it.

JReacher1

hollydays wrote: »

We've now decided it's not a member of staff who " saw something" but a member of security on a camera?

So to clarify as I am getting a bit confused you don't class security as staff?

So if a member of the security team told another member to stop someone that is ok as a security guard isn't classed as staff?

Even if you don't class them as staff (which is a bit weird) your original point was that people wouldn't stop someone based on another persons say so. You now seem to be back tracking on this and saying you can stop someone as long as the person who has told you they've seen the crime is a member of the security team and is not called Betty.

powerful_Rogue

hollydays wrote: »

I await to hear from all the staff who agree with you. Bless..
I'd say, carry on taking young girls into rooms with you.
It's clearly acceptable to you, though the police themselves would never do it.

What if its a room that's been designed to take suspected shoplifters into? IE, minimal furniture and CCTV?