Here we can all be heard for a little while. Part 2

Waves_and_Smiles

Psychodynamic psychotherapy, also known as psychoanalytic psychotherapy is what I had, Pyxis. Either name means the same thing. The term psychotherapy on its own is an umbrella term for several types of talking therapies. In psychodynamic, the therapist guides the client to understand how beliefs and fears built in the past from negative relationships and experiences affect them today, for a loose example if someone believed they were worthless after being told so for years and therefore found it hard to form relationships with others. Then one works on challenging those emotions and finally letting them go.

It works particularly well for people who are affected by past trauma and are held back from living how they would want to by that, whereas CBT works far more in the here and now dealing with life as it is. A CBT therapist would teach techniques about how control panic in the present with a brief look at why it exists, a psychoanalytic therapist would look in depth at what caused the panic and teach the client to understand the impact of the memory and then release it, thereby healing from it.

Another difference is CBT tends to be a short group of sessions, for psychodynamic psychotherapy you would commit to at least 6 months and often longer. You will notice with psychodynamic no matter what you say the therapist will remain largely neutral and calmly talk you through it, a CBT therapist would be more inclined to acknowledge that something must have been hard for you, a psychodynamic therapist will not give you their opinion and ask how you feel about what happened. This is so that they do not influence you with their feelings (blank sheet of paper technique). You do need to brave because parts are very hard but it is also incredibly freeing if you can see it through. It undoubtedly saved my life.

Personal opinion here but I wouldn't recommend people have psychoanalysis without having a form of psychotherapy first, preferably psychodynamic. I know it works for some people on its own but it wouldn't have done for me because it is so based on psychodynamic technique. I am sure I would have been utterly confused about why the therapist wasn't saying a word to me, sitting behind me and never making eye contact! This is because even the best therapist will raise an eyebrow or look sad for you occasionally, in psychoanalysis any reaction from the therapist is completely removed so they have no influence whatsoever. My psychoanalyst would say maybe two sentences in an hour, but they would be hugely important things that made me think twice. Fortunately I was familiar with the blank sheet of paper technique, otherwise I likely would have felt really creeped out!

Psychoanalysis also requires a huge commitment, I saw my analyst for an hour 5 days a week for 6 months then 3 times a week for the next 18 months. The idea is that you can't distract or run from what is brought up, you throw yourself into examining things constantly to force yourself to face things.

Big hugs at being willing to get help with your feelings, I know how hard it is for you and I think you are incredibly brave.

tea_lover

Am losing will to live in world's most dull audit (and let's face it, audits are never exactly exciting). This guy is driving me (and everyone else) mad, no wonder my profession gets a bad press with muppets like this in it.

ETA: this is the same guy I was moaning about the other week who hasn't even started the job we were supposed to be splitting. He still hasn't done any of that!

calleyw

I think anyone who actively tries to deal with issues even though they know it can cause great distress is very brave.

In my area my GP has told me that there is not much help for me. I know I need more help and think from reading WaS reply to pyxis that I need more than counseling but its does not seem to be an option. My ex was at the same surgery as me before he moved and he got referred to a psychiatrist but either never went or went once. But I have not been offered that as an option.

Yours

Calley

Pyxis

whitewing wrote: »

pyxis, you are one of my heroes. Sorry you feel rubbish but I am also a little surprised as you seem a very 'sorted' person to me.

Hahahahaaha! All that AmDram training worked then! :rotfl::D

Pyxis

Thanks WaS. From what you have said, I don't think psychotherapy would suit at the moment. I think the blank sheet of paper and no acknowledgement would upset me. My unconditional regard pot is empty, and I think it needs something in it before I could face such a neutral approach. Plus there's still the memory of the ghastly psychotherapist!

So maybe CBT with some acknowledgement would be useful. I feel I need strategies, not just to talk about it all.

Plus it sounds like all the ongoing psychotherapy stuff would cost a fortune!

Thanks for that info! :A

Waves_and_Smiles

CBT is also wonderful! You will look a little at why you have the reactions you do but the emphasis will be on learning techniques to help control those emotions in the present day. Counselling is also a possibility, no blank sheet of paper and just talking through things that have happened. It isn't as deep or as neutral which could be easier to start with. Funnily enough I have never had counselling, I have been referred 3 times and each time after the assessment the counsellors have said this is outside of what we offer, have you considered psychotherapy?

Psychotherapy is a bit harder to access than counselling sadly, Calley. A lot of people opt for private although it is available on the NHS. I am not sure if MIND have psychotherapists, I think they do? JM?!

calleyw

right bought my underskirt in Turquoise was only 12.99 and needed a new mouse again as i keep breaking them.

So with my voucher total cost for underskirt and mouse £12.99.

Can't wait for it to arrive

Yours

Calley

mellymoo74

That sounds pretty calley.

Tea it may hurt short term but it helps long term (OH would have been ok if not stopped partway through)

Mate recommended me for a role so just spoken to agency. Didn't go well. Didn't like her

calleyw

mellymoo74 wrote: »

That sounds pretty calley.

Tea it may hurt short term but it helps long term (OH would have been ok if not stopped partway through)

Mate recommended me for a role so just spoken to agency. Didn't go well. Didn't like her

thank you and its lindy bop one as well.

It does hurt. I use to come out totally drained and so tired wanted to just go to sleep.

Oh thats not good melly.

yours

Calley

mellymoo74

Nah you need to gel with a recruitment agent
If their snotty and won't tell you anything about the company at the start of the conversation it's not worth the effort

I may give up and just do bloody administration (by that I don't mean administration is meaningless I mean it's a waste of training and money spent training to do admin)