Here we can all be heard for a little while. Part 2

whitewing

Could just have been naturally from a broken heart, Georgiegirl.

Penguin about death Someone I know died recently of illness and had a young family. I don't want to go into too many details but it is terrifically sad. My reaction - quietly and to myself - is to have had a massive increase in the number of daily suicidal thoughts. I feel extremely guilty about this as she would have never chosen to leave her family. I see no point in me being here long term. (It isn't just this situation - it is a number of things and I know that the prompt is frustration and I ought to be able to ride it out. I perhaps need to go back on the anti-d's but am part of a research project at the moment which finishes next week so I must hold out until then. I know that if I told them how I feel they would insist I stop straight away, and so I could stop, but it is for the long term good anyway so I am sure it will be okay. Don't have a 'plan', which always seems to be a key thing.

Georgiegirl256

We thought that too WW

Penguin in reply to WW:

I think going back on the anti-D's sounds like it is a good thing for you, and also maybe you could benefit from talking to someone, whether that be a counsellor, the Samaritans or even your husband (I don't know how much you talk about things with him though?), but even with my limited knowledge of mental health, your post screams out to be that you really need to share these thoughts with someone.

YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ THIS NEXT PART AS IM HONEST ABOUT HOW I USED TO FEEL, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT A FAMILY EXPERIENCE OF SUICIDE.




Before my uncle took his own life, I had had no experience of suicide what so ever. I always thought it a very selfish thing to do, and just could not understand why anyone would leave their family or their partner behind.it seemed illogical to me. That was purely though down to not understanding mental health at all. My uncle was one of the most jolliest friendliest guys you could meet, always cracking jokes and always helping people out. How could someone that cheery do such a terrible thing? Then it dawned on me just how low and desperate he must have got to actually go as far as taking his own life. It wasn't a selfish thing to do, it was in his mind the only thing he could do, he could see no way out. He very obviously wasn't in his right mind, it wasn't a cold calculated thing to cause as much upset and grief to those left, he had just gotten so low, there were no other options (in his mind).

I really wish he'd felt the need to talk to someone. My Aunty wishes she'd read the signs sooner (because appartently there were some), and she wishes they'd known more about the medication he was on for other things, because they think that was a big part of it.

Now when I hear about people committing suicide, i get that they at that moment in time felt there was no other way out, and far from finding it selfish anymore, I find it desperately sad that help hadn't got to them in time.

Please WW, if you feel you need to talk to someone, please do it.

Penguin end.

codemonkey

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Thanks flybaby, that means a lot x x

I could easily say 'I am not a turtle' when I go to America! They never understand me anyway! :rotfl: I'm either Scottish, Geordie or Scouse....near enough, that'll do!

That's weird. I get Canadian, Australian or English. :rotfl:

Well done on the I am not a turtle thing Pyxis. Your next challenge is "I am a teenage mutant ninja turtle".

codemonkey

Sorry, phone got a bit trigger happy there and posted before I was ready.

Response to Georgie penguin
It's very sad about your family friend. In a lot of cases, particularly men, the spouse does not survive long after their so has died. Perhaps because they don't look after themselves properly, or they just lose the will to go on. It may have been suicide but equally, it may have been countless other things such as a heart attack, aneurysm, or just drifting off in his sleep (personally that's how I want to go).

WW Penguin reply.
Right missy. I'm going to be very bossy with you. You need to talk to someone and you need to do it now. If not for you, then for Littlewing. You are struggling and you need support. Nothing wrong in that. But for you, before you hit crisis point, you need help. Whether that help is here or from MrWing or from the Samaritans is up to you.

May I also suggest visiting your GP so you have a supply of anti d's for next week. They'll also be able to recommend if you should continue with the research. Nobody will think badly of you if you drop out. In fact, it might prove helpful if people are hitting crisis point (not sure what the research is for).

Many hugs and squishes.

calleyw

I am fine this morning. Went to the shop last night and scoured for salty things to eat.

Now anyone who is struggling please I beg you go and get help and talk to someone.

Private message me if you like. But please talk to someone. I know when everything seems to be going to carp that is no light at the end of the tunnel.

I do understand how you feel been very very close myself.

People do care so please do something get an emergency appointment at the dr's or what ever you feel is right for you.

Yours

Calley

heartbreak_star

Love to you, WW. Please talk to someone.

Felt very down earlier, but popped out for lunch and heard my favourite song from when I was about four

Sometimes, it's the little things that make you smile.

HBS x

elsien

More on the penguin theme, but aimed more at the people around someone.

I was talking to someone a while back about how they felt when they were suicidal. They told me that when they were at their lowest, if anyone asked if they were thinking of harming themselves then the honest answer they gave was no. Because at that point in time, they didn't consider suicide to be in any way self harm but more of a release. So I suppose I'm saying think about how you phrase things when you're talking to someone you're worried about, because their perceptions and subsequent answers might be very different to yours.

WW and anyone else feeling rough, do what you need to do to get help - the priority is you, whatever else is going on at the time.

Gitdog has joined the poorlies. Fine while in kennels but the little stress head has developed anxiety and colitits now he's home again. And is rather annoyingly superglued to my leg - I'm going to break my neck on him at this rate.
WaS - hope your face is better, along with a thank you for inadvertently reminding me that Dr Who started while I was away, and I need to catch up before Saturday.

Wellyboots6

Evening all!

Hope t winners enjoyed the cake! We are home now, and finding out feet, thank you for the well wishes.

Escapette was born at 12.28pm on Monday 21st weighing 7lb 3oz. She was born by emergency section as we both had a rather dramatic time of it. Hubby went through the mill bless him but he has been so good since and recovered from the shock of it well.

I can see I am now going to be a late night fort regular due to feeding etc so feel free to message me if anyone can't sleep!

Well done on the food Melly and hope the poorlies feel better soon
Hope your holiday is going well Pyxis, and not sure if it's good or bad you have time to add the thread etiquette!

Indie_Kid

It's nice to hear from you, welly. Does baby have a name yet?

Pyxis

Indie_Kid wrote: »

It's nice to hear from you, welly. Does baby have a name yet?

Yes! It's Escapette! :T that's brilliant, Katy!

Don't know about me having time to post the thread etiquette, I'm amazed that you have time/energy to post only two days after a C-section! Jolly well done you! :T
(Re. My posts........the erratic internet here was reasonably fast and stable so I decided to do it before it played up again! It's even a pain in the last hour though!)