Mass PCN's from VCS in Sheffield

bod1467

Does the lease specifically mention a defined/numbered parking slot?

Have a Google for UKPC vs Davey.

Fruitcake

JBak wrote: »

Busy morning this morning, I've written to the estate owner/manager as well as my own landlord, I also put up a couple of posters around the place asking other residents to contact me if they'd been affected so we can organise some action as a group.



I'm a tenant, renting the flat through a landlord and the spaces are allocated to each individual flat.

Is there any chance a moderator could change the title to 'Mass PCN's from VCS in Sheffield'?

I think you can edit the title yourself (although it's a long time since I was a NEWBIE so this might not be correct until you have a few more posts under your belt,) Edit, Go Advanced, then change the title and save changes.

Bungalow1969

There are a few good companies out there that only charge a management fee for the service, so they do not make any money from parking charges they issue, therefore work with the landowner on a common sense approach to ensure compliance not revenue generation. The more reputable ones also have a contact centre you can ring to speak to a real person to explain the situation.
All the revenue generated from the charges are passed back to the landowner who should have full discretion over cancelling any tickets.

ManxRed

Well, this is news to me. Care to name any of these companies?

The_Slithy_Tove

Bungalow1969 wrote: »

There are a few good companies out there that only charge a management fee for the service, so they do not make any money from parking charges they issue, therefore work with the landowner on a common sense approach to ensure compliance not revenue generation. The more reputable ones also have a contact centre you can ring to speak to a real person to explain the situation.
All the revenue generated from the charges are passed back to the landowner who should have full discretion over cancelling any tickets.

I smell a PPC stooge. New poster with glowing references to an unnamed PPC. Wrong, I'm afraid. Just having real people to talk to does not make them as rude and offensive as all the rest. And as for revenue going to the landowner, how does that help in a situation such as this?

Bungalow1969

I'm not a PPC stooge, but can understand why you think that re-reading the post.
I got a ticket at a University for not displaying a permit, my fault because I was only going to be there for a few minutes and ended up being there nearly an hour. I rang the enquiry number with my feeble excuse and they explained that because the car park was under utilised because the term had finished they were told to use their discretion, and let me off with a warning. It was just my experience of common sense from a PPC.

The_Deep

Bungalow 1969, I have been a landlord for 40 years. I have met MAs who refuse to work with PPCs and those who do. I have never met one who does who pus residents' interests first.

JBak

So this is the response I got back from the owner / manager of the building:

"
[FONT=&quot]The sites rules are very clear on the parking requirements of having a valid permit displayed. In addition to this, if the residents had made contact with us we would have been able to arrange for their cars to be added to the exemption list while a permit is arranged.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]If you have any queries concerning this matter, please direct it to VCS on the following number:[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]0114 261 7373"

[FONT=&quot]Still waiting to hear back from my own [FONT=&quot]La[FONT=&quot]nd[FONT=&quot]lord.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
[/FONT]

Grimble

NEVER phone them, always in writing.

bazster

The sites rules are very clear on the parking requirements of having a valid permit displayed.

The point is not what their arbitrary rules say, the point is whether you ever agreed to them. They can't just make stuff up and impose it unilaterally.

In addition to this, if the residents had made contact with us we would have been able to arrange for their cars to be added to the exemption list while a permit is arranged.

To which the blindingly obvious response is: if there is an exemption list (which you were never told about previously) put my registration number on it permanently and that's an end to it.

Whilst it is generally held that only the landowner can sue for trespass this is not strictly true. The person in exclusive occupation of the land is normally the person who can sue, and you could argue that since the parking space is allocated for your exclusive use then you are the person in exclusive occupation.

It has also been established in recent years that anyone who has an interest in the land (even if they are not the exclusive occupier) can sue for trespass to the extent that the trespass interferes with their interest in the land.

In other words, you can write to both the management company and VCS, tell them to cease and desist trespassing on your parking space, and warn them that you will sue for trespass and may apply for an injunction if they persist.