DRP demand letter for Liverpool Airport parking

Barry1108

Hi,
I just received a letter from a company called Debt Recovery Plus with a 'Demand for Payment - unpaid Parking Charge Notice £160'
This is the first I have heard from them and the date of the alleged 'offence' is 30/04/2015
It states in the letter as below.....

We are writing on behalf of the creditor in relation to an unpaid Parking Charge Notice. Details were originally sent to the address provided by the DVLA for the registered keeper of the vehicle at the date the parking charge was issued, or to the driver of the vehicle at the time the parking charge was issued (where the information was known).
Due to there being no response following the correspondence to this address, we have utilised a tracing service which has provided the above new address as your most current address.
The parking charge was issued because the vehicle was parked in a manner where the driver attracted a parking charge as brought to the drivers attention via signage and agreed to by the driver when the vehicle was parked on private land managed by the creditor.
We now require payment of the parking charge above. If you are the keeper of the vehicle, we strongly advise that you confirm with the DVLA that they hold the correct address for the registered keeper, as it is a legal requirement for the vehicle keeper to update the DVLA of a change of address. Failure to do so is an offence which could result in prosecution and a fine of up to £1000.
If you believe that the above information is incorrect you should contact us to explain why. Otherwise if payment is not received within 14 days of the date of this letter further recovery action may take place and additional costs may be incurred.
Yours Sincerely,
Sarah Connor.


Now the thing is - on the date mentioned I was there to pick my wife up and her flight was delayed so I was basically driving around waiting. Also I moved house at the beginning of January and informed the DVLA immediately and have had my driving licence with my new (correct) address since mid-January so god knows how they can claim the address is out of date.
And now this letter is the first I have heard of anything - out of the blue nearly 3 months later with a charge of £160!
Surely this cant be right???

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

Barry

Browntoa

Start with the newbies thread at the top of this section

Also search on here for Liverpool , there are loads of threads with the steps

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5271195

Redx

Barry1108 wrote: »

Now the thing is - on the date mentioned I was there to pick my wife up and her flight was delayed so I was basically driving around waiting.

Also I moved house at the beginning of January and informed the DVLA immediately and have had my driving licence with my new (correct) address since mid-January so god knows how they can claim the address is out of date.

And now this letter is the first I have heard of anything - out of the blue nearly 3 months later with a charge of £160!
Surely this cant be right???

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

Barry

ignore DRP, they are powerless (read post #4 of the newbies sticky thread)

also note , this has nothing to do with your driving licence, nothing at all

its the V5C for your VRN that they are disputing there

BOTH need to be changed with the DVLA otherwise the DVLA CAN ISSUE A PENALTY FOR EACH FAILURE , but parking invoices go to the RK of the vehicle, not the person with or without a driving license

the only person talking about a driving license is YOU !

esmerobbo

Barry1108 wrote: »

Now the thing is - on the date mentioned I was there to pick my wife up and her flight was delayed so I was basically driving around waiting.

No doubt you stopped to pick your wife up, on the "high security risk" approach road and their CCTV van man got you.

hoohoo

The way the parking industry works is that if they say they sent you a letter, it counts as sent, but if you say you sent them a letter, it doesn't.

Thus your situation.

You have outed yourself as driver, which may tempt them to pursue the case. In this site, only the driver is liable, not the keeper. However, as the IAS baristas do not understand parking related law that would not have helped you anyway, even had you got the letters in time to appeal.

The situation you are in is that they will try and argue you accepted a contract by whizzing past some signs at 30mph. The true legal situation is that you must have a fair chance to fully read, understand and accept a contract before it comes in force. By any sane and unbiased analysis of the situation, that cannot have happened here.

You were trespassing, because the signs have the standard 'no stopping' symbol on them, and it is reasonable to expect you to see these. In Ransomes Park v Anderson, HHJ Moloney explained that where signs do not offer a contract, a trespass can still occur.

The standard remedy for trespass is to put the landowner back in the position they were in, and if there is no actual loss nominal damages of £1 are usually awarded.

You could therefore make a without prejudice save to costs offer to the landowner (Peel Holdings?) to cover this.

DRP and VCS will almost certainly not go to court. If their little scam is exposed by judges a nice moneyspinner comes to an end. They did go to court over this location once. The motorist explained he had broken down. The judge asked VCS if they charged motorists who broke down. VCS replied of course not. The judge replied, great, case dismissed.

Ralph-y

if you really want to read up on the scam you have just been caught up in .......

read up on ..............

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/vehicle-control-systems-signage-at.html

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5191690

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5132921

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5192051

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5130131

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177878

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5180656

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177198

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177258

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5110349

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5171250

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5156653

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5152822

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5131416

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5149455

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5148343

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5105940

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5139477




http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/vehicle-control-systems-signage-at.html

Ralph:cool:

Barry1108

I have now received a notice of intended court action, is this enforceable or is it just another threat?

Redx

depends who sent it

if it was DRP, its bluff and bluster, they cannot issue court proceedings

I told you in post #3 to IGNORE DRP, clearly if you read this and posted here then you are not following that advice, IGNORE means IGNORE, so do so

if it was the PPC (which is VCS), then take it seriously

Barry1108

Redx wrote: »

depends who sent it

if it was DRP, its bluff and bluster, they cannot issue court proceedings

I told you in post #3 to IGNORE DRP, clearly if you read this and posted here then you are not following that advice, IGNORE means IGNORE, so do so

if it was the PPC (which is VCS), then take it seriously

Yes I am following your advice (which is appreciated) to ignore but its unnerving receiving these. I am just double checking I am doing the right thing

Redx

maybe so, but please dont keep resurrecting this thread every time DRP or a debt collector sends you a demand , you are wasting everybodys time telling us about each and every debt collector letter, IGNORE means exactly that , IGNORE, can put it any simpler

come back if or when you have something of note , and dont be ambiguous as to who sent the letter either, dont say "they" , say VCS or DRP or whoever sent it to you , be specific , dont beat around the bush hoping we will know who "they" are , especially when you never said who sent this latest letter !!

an LBC from VCS (the PPC threatening court by using a Letter Before Court action)

or an MCOL from Northampton or Salford on behalf of VCS (court papers)

ever since they sent you the parking invoice they have had the option to harass you for 6 years , threatening court

so its either issue court letters and papers , or dont, ignore the in-between , the thing about debt collectors is that its their job to harasss you in this way, hoping you will pay up and then they get their fee, they dont get paid otherwise

Barry1108 wrote: »

I have now received a notice of intended court action, is this enforceable or is it just another threat?

doesnt say who sent it, only that a letter arrived and you are asking us to comment on a letter of unknown origin that we have not seen