Windows 10

victor2

Fightsback wrote: »

And people wonder why piracy exists with stunts like this. Just don't use your retail licence

Alternatively I can still do what the heck I like with Linux

Ubuntu is now running quite nicely on my old Vista box...:)

spud17

Jivesinger wrote: »

I dunno, to be honest.

Thanks for the honesty, .

Fightsback wrote: »

And people wonder why piracy exists with stunts like this. Just don't use your retail licence

Alternatively I can still do what the heck I like with Linux

I think I'd rather never use my Retail licence again than let MS devalue it, just me being awkward.
I do have options available.
Also I'm a regular Linux user, but don't always have time/inclination to search for a certain program that's readily available in Windows.

prowla wrote: »

So, once you install Windows 10 on a computer it's non-transferable, even if your computer breaks and you have to replace it, you'll need to buy a new license.

I assume you are referring to the download/upgrade?
Windows 10 Retail versions are available to purchase, and will be transferable.

50Twuncle

Fightsback wrote: »

And people wonder why piracy exists with stunts like this. Just don't use your retail licence

Alternatively I can still do what the heck I like with Linux

You bought (or were supplied with) - your original Windows licence for a specific PC - You have been upgraded for free and STILL want to keep your original licence to use on another device ?
There's no pleasing some people !!

ChiefGrasscutter

Perhaps methinks that's the payback for MS for giving you a free upgrade - you loose the right if you upgrade on a retail licence to then transfer it.
So in effect you are "paying" for the upgrade by having your retail licence converted into an OEM licence.........

I_have_spoken

So, once you install Windows 10 on a computer it's non-transferable, even if your computer breaks and you have to replace it, you'll need to buy a new license.

The transfer of rights of Windows 10 upgrade inherit the rights of the qualifying product.

If you upgrade Windows 7/8.1 that was pre-installed on a PC, then Windows 10 has the same rights as the OEM install, so it's basically tied to that machine.

If you upgrade a Windows 7/8.1 Retail version, Windows 10 continues the transfer rights to another computer. (More pedantically, the transfer rights of Retail 7/8.1 continue, as does the right to a free upgrade to Windows 10 until July 29 2016)

50Twuncle

I_have_spoken wrote: »

The transfer of rights of Windows 10 upgrade inherit the rights of the qualifying product.

If you upgrade Windows 7/8.1 that was pre-installed on a PC, then Windows 10 has the same rights as the OEM install, so it's basically tied to that machine.

If you upgrade a Windows 7/8.1 Retail version, Windows 10 continues the transfer rights to another computer.

Exactly - the same as any other OEM installation - why should MS allow you to transfer an OEM installation to another device under the same licence ?
They never have (except for Win 3.1 / Win 95.1 but that was 20 + years ago)

spud17

50Twuncle wrote: »

You bought (or were supplied with) - your original Windows licence for a specific PC - You have been upgraded for free and STILL want to keep your original licence to use on another device ?
There's no pleasing some people !!

Not true if you have a Retail licence.

ChiefGrasscutter wrote: »

Perhaps methinks that's the payback for MS for giving you a free upgrade - you loose the right if you upgrade on a retail licence to then transfer it.
So in effect you are "paying" for the upgrade by having your retail licence converted into an OEM licence.........

So we pay extra for a Retail licence, then it's converted to OEM, in effect losing out, whilst those with OEM machines get a completely free upgrade.

I_have_spoken wrote: »

The transfer of rights of Windows 10 upgrade inherit the rights of the qualifying product.

If you upgrade Windows 7/8.1 that was pre-installed on a PC, then Windows 10 has the same rights as the OEM install, so it's basically tied to that machine.

If you upgrade a Windows 7/8.1 Retail version, Windows 10 continues the transfer rights to another computer. (More pedantically, the transfer rights of Retail 7/8.1 continue, as does the right to a free upgrade to Windows 10 until July 29 2016)

That's not what I'm reading at

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/operating-systems/1403707/windows-7-and-8-retail-users-cant-transfer-windows-10-after-a

50Twuncle

spud17 wrote: »

Not true if you have a Retail licence.



So we pay extra for a Retail licence, then it's converted to OEM, in effect losing out, whilst those with OEM machines get a completely free upgrade.

Yes - but in the meantime - you have an upgraded version of Windows for free - plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade in the first place.

Fightsback

50Twuncle wrote: »

Yes - but in the meantime - you have an upgraded version of Windows for free - plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade in the first place.

No such thing as free, didn't MSE teach you anything ?

If something is free then YOU are the product.

50Twuncle

Fightsback wrote: »

No such thing as free, didn't MSE teach you anything ?

If something is free then YOU are the product.

Maybe not free - but VERY cheap !