Smoking in a rented property

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Torry_Quine wrote: »

It's Torry, which is very different.

I'm not naive. people meeting me for the first time have told me that there is no smell lingering. Washing your clothes is an overreaction and no way does your underwear smell! ��

I still recall meetings held years back and I had to sit there in perfectly clean clothes - knowing very well I would have to wash those clothes before I could wear them again (as they reeked of smoke from having had people smoking near me for several hours).

Us non-smokers really DID have to do quite a bit of extra clothes-washing back when smokers were allowed to smoke wherever they pleased.

I used to really begrudge all that extra washing and ironing.

Re houses - they do also pick up that smoker stink. The last owner of my current house was obviously a smoker and the smell of her fags didn't vanish completely until I had pretty much revamped the house anyway (ie thrown out all the floor and window coverings, re-plastered every single wall and ceiling in the house). I even had to throw out all the lightbulbs. It still didn't fully deal with it and I had to air the house like mad several times and spray around some home-made Thieves Oil solution several times before the smell cleared totally.

KRB2725

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I have never smoked although my husband does. He smokes in the house and I would never tell him he had to go outside in his own home! He doesn't smell and neither does the house and that's not just my opinion.

How is this possible, what do you do to get rid of the smell?

My husband only smokes outside, yet I can still smell smoke on him and his clothes. Our car also smells of smoke, he never smokes in there it just transfers from his clothes.

I don't tell my husband he has to go outside to smoke, he has always done it as he doesn't want to inflict the smell on me or our home!

I have yet to meet a smoker where the smell isn't detectable, so am wondering what your secret is please?

lovinituk

melanzana wrote: »

So, Ok, I have to redecorate my kitchen every couple of years because of cooking smells and stains, and no matter what we do, steam, grease etc. builds up on the ceiling and on the curtains/blinds. Can't stop it, it is life!

That is a sad fact, but true. There are more houses that smell of cooking than smell of cigs nowadays, but there we are. And it does linger, believe me!

Maybe the cig smells hid it all back in the day though. That is a possibility I suppose.

Every couple of years?! What on earth are you cooking?? I don't know of anyone's house where cooking smells linger for more than maybe a couple of hours. Perhaps you need to revisit your housekeeping schedule

2015newstart

I'd be fuming if someone smoked in one of our rentals. Clearly states no smoking, if you're going to smoke in the house find someone else's house to rent who isn't as picky as me. It's like pets. If this house isn't suiting your needs chose another one. Put yourself in the landlord's position, they're just trying to protect their investment.

We say no smoking to reduce smells, yellowing and just the cleanliness of the property. We've had the unfortunately position of moving into military property after it'd had smokers in. That smell doesn't go anywhere fast and lingered all the time we lived there, even after a redec and carpets shampoo. I used to hate leaving the house just for a few days as it was horrendous when we returned.

martinsurrey

melanzana wrote: »

So, Ok, I have to redecorate my kitchen every couple of years because of cooking smells and stains, and no matter what we do, steam, grease etc. builds up on the ceiling and on the curtains/blinds. Can't stop it, it is life!

That is a sad fact, but true. There are more houses that smell of cooking than smell of cigs nowadays, but there we are. And it does linger, believe me!

Maybe the cig smells hid it all back in the day though. That is a possibility I suppose.

Cooking is like smoking IF you set fire to everything you cook, its the high particlate count of smoke (casued by burning) that makes it linger, cooking is not like that unless you're terrible at it and eat burnt food all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

fishpond

melanzana wrote: »

As a non smoker, I see the anti smoking brigade are out in their droves.

Such intolerance!

Anyway, how do I stop cooking smells from pervading my house please. Even the neighbours asked me once could they come in for dinner, as the smells were wafting everywhere!

My house seems to reek of garlic and onions every day. I need a solution to this. Every time I enter the house I know someone who likes garlic lives there. Terrible. Even my clothes and the curtains smell of garlic every day.

It's not that easy to cook your dinner outside though....

Get a BBQ.

Ratison

melanzana wrote: »

Change the RADIATORS? Along with everything else, and the kitchen?

That sounds a bit radical to me.

I would strip the wallpaper, shampoo the carpets, re paint, and keep the windows open a lot.

What you describe sounds OTT. Totally, sorry.

It is not the plague remember.

We've done all that and more - carpets have been changed, all the house repainted, and scrubbed with white vinegar.

Believe me, I'd rather not have to go to such extreme lengths!

SplanK

I think this topic has taken a different path...


The landlord has stated that there is a no smoking rule in the property. You should respect this, if not then please go and find another property that will allow this.


By smoking in the property, you are potentially causing 'damage' (smell of smoke and discoloration to some items) which you would need to pay out of cleanup/redecoration costs.


In addition, you may also be invalidating an insurance policy which states that people do not smoke in the house. You could find yourself in hot water if there was a fire caused by a rogue, still lit cigarette (if proven of course).


Lastly, yes I believe the landlord could have reasonable ground to serve notice on you for going against the signed contract. IMHO, it is a reasonable request and goes along the lines of no pets.


An alternative would be to convert to an e-cig for smoking indoors which I understand has none of the negative effects than smoking Tabaco based products on the property (saying that, ensure you use the correct charger. We had one incident at work which resulted in the e-cig battery blowing up, causing a small battery fire!)

Guest101

2015newstart wrote: »

I'd be fuming if someone smoked in one of our rentals. Clearly states no smoking, if you're going to smoke in the house find someone else's house to rent who isn't as picky as me. It's like pets. If this house isn't suiting your needs chose another one. Put yourself in the landlord's position, they're just trying to protect their investment.

We say no smoking to reduce smells, yellowing and just the cleanliness of the property. We've had the unfortunately position of moving into military property after it'd had smokers in. That smell doesn't go anywhere fast and lingered all the time we lived there, even after a redec and carpets shampoo. I used to hate leaving the house just for a few days as it was horrendous when we returned.

Perhaps invest in other markets, since there would be little you could do if a smoker moved in.

Guest101

SplanK wrote: »

I think this topic has taken a different path...


The landlord has stated that there is a no smoking rule in the property. You should respect this, if not then please go and find another property that will allow this.


By smoking in the property, you are potentially causing 'damage' (smell of smoke and discoloration to some items) which you would need to pay out of cleanup/redecoration costs.


In addition, you may also be invalidating an insurance policy which states that people do not smoke in the house. You could find yourself in hot water if there was a fire caused by a rogue, still lit cigarette (if proven of course).


Lastly, yes I believe the landlord could have reasonable ground to serve notice on you for going against the signed contract. IMHO, it is a reasonable request and goes along the lines of no pets.


An alternative would be to convert to an e-cig for smoking indoors which I understand has none of the negative effects than smoking Tabaco based products on the property (saying that, ensure you use the correct charger. We had one incident at work which resulted in the e-cig battery blowing up, causing a small battery fire!)

Sec.21 'no reason' notice - of course. The LL cant lose.

Outside of that i dont think a judge would make someone homeless over a dog or a cigerette.

There are other investment markets available with less risk for the more discerning amongst us.