Nice People Thread No. 14, all Nice and Proper

Percy1983

michaels wrote: »

PIR stands for 'motion sensor light'

I thought it meant passive infrared sensor...

Generali

Doozergirl wrote: »

What is this talk of folding bikes? Surely you didn't move away before the advent of the 'Boris Bike'? I still haven't been on one. I'm either not wearing appropriate footwear or lugging a cabin bag.

I moved in 2008 and am yet to ride a Boris Bike.

Generali

Percy1983 wrote: »

I thought it meant passive infrared sensor...

I thought it was Perhaps If I wave my hands aRound enough the damn light will come on.

lostinrates

Train solution found. . Relief.

chewmylegoff

Generali wrote: »

Who knew? Oh yeah, you

I still reckon we should bung a few Estate Agents in gaol pour encourager les autres.

As long as the agent reports concerns correctly they are in the clear as far as I understand it anyway. If a solicitor is handling the money they probably apply for consent from the NCA for the transaction to go ahead. Basically advisers are unlikely to be prosecuted as long as they do the requisite grassing up.

Prosecution and seizure of the assets is the only way to shut down this sort of behaviour IMO. Given that the Russian authorities do not cooperate with law enforcement in the UK (unless the target is an enemy of Putin of course) then it seems unlikely that anyone will gather sufficient evidence to show that the source of incoming funds originating from Russia is criminal.

There is actually an ongoing case at the moment where the City Police have announced charges (the facts of which have been aired through the high court as a result of a connected civil action) but that involves money that a Russian employee working for the UK bit of a Russian bank nicked from the bank (and used in part to buy properties) rather than proceeds of crime originating from inside Russia. Google urumov + fraud if interested.

lostinrates

chewmylegoff wrote: »

As long as the agent reports concerns correctly they are in the clear as far as I understand it anyway. If a solicitor is handling the money they probably apply for consent from the NCA for the transaction to go ahead. Basically advisers are unlikely to be prosecuted as long as they do the requisite grassing up.

Prosecution and seizure of the assets is the only way to shut down this sort of behaviour IMO. Given that the Russian authorities do not cooperate with law enforcement in the UK (unless the target is an enemy of Putin of course) then it seems unlikely that anyone will gather sufficient evidence to show that the source of incoming funds originating from Russia is criminal.

There is actually an ongoing case at the moment where the City Police have announced charges (the facts of which have been aired through the high court as a result of a connected civil action) but that involves money that a Russian employee working for the UK bit of a Russian bank nicked from the bank (and used in part to buy properties) rather than proceeds of crime originating from inside Russia. Google urumov + fraud if interested.

I don't know about ( lir word finding issue) solicitors who deal with house transactions, but the money laundering officer thing is quite a big deal where fir has worked. Simply grassing up and that's it is not quite how it works in practise. I'm reluctant to say more, but I think its not quite right to say that the links are so small. ( sorry words are really not good today, so excuse lack of eloquence....actually, not going to say what I was going to say because I don't think its good to say it. ).

Edit conveyancing.

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

Sometimes PIR lights (if you have one already) have that sort of functionality (apart from the on for 4 hours) built in, for example on (not PIR) can be achieved but switching on, off and on again quickly.

I have no PIR.

My garden light comes on at dusk, without PIR. Trouble is, that would mean the light left on all night, which I'd not want.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

I have no PIR.

My garden light comes on at dusk, without PIR. Trouble is, that would mean the light left on all night, which I'd not want.

They can be retrofitted.

Percy1983

Furry? as in rat?

I found two thirds of a rat in my garden once, left it and the rest went not long after.

Couldn't be sure if it was the work of a fox or owl, either way the natural ecosystem is clearly doing its thing.

chewmylegoff

lostinrates wrote: »

I don't know about ( lir word finding issue) solicitors who deal with house transactions, but the money laundering officer thing is quite a big deal where fir has worked. Simply grassing up and that's it is not quite how it works in practise. I'm reluctant to say more, but I think its not quite right to say that the links are so small. ( sorry words are really not good today, so excuse lack of eloquence....actually, not going to say what I was going to say because I don't think its good to say it. ).

Edit conveyancing.

Yeah if you're structuring financial transactions or products then things are a bit more complicated as you can't just get away with reporting concerns about the source of the funds if you are intrinsically involved in assisting a client in structuring something which turns out to be itself fraudulent or is part of the laundering of criminal proceeds.