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suspect tescomobile sent me a fake phone

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  • Jakg
    Jakg Posts: 2,267 Forumite
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    There is no easily accessible IMEI database of phones (other than GSMA*) - because of this you end up with some cobbled together ones which have errors. I wouldn't worry about it.

    *The GSMA one is £6k a year (or at least it is for the most basic, cheapest level!). I wouldn't imagine most free websites use it.

    EDIT - From my research, Nobbi seemed to be the most reliable of the alternatives - http://www.nobbi.com/tacquery.php
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  • Collabora
    Collabora Posts: 1,360 Forumite
    edited 18 January 2015 at 1:29PM
    Jakg wrote: »
    There is no easily accessible IMEI database of phones (other than GSMA*) - because of this you end up with some cobbled together ones which have errors. I wouldn't worry about it.

    *The GSMA one is £6k a year (or at least it is for the most basic, cheapest level!). I wouldn't imagine most free websites use it.

    EDIT - From my research, Nobbi seemed to be the most reliable of the alternatives - http://www.nobbi.com/tacquery.php

    but i dare say insurance companies will use the GSMA one, and if that does not match with the phone i have then someone has messed up somewhere.

    that link gives

    36983 entry(s) in the database
    35331806 : No entrys found matching your query
  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    i really think you're overthinking this - isn't this your "spare in-a-drawer" handset anyway? Its a sub-£50 phone, if the IMEI number is causing problems getting it insured, I just wouldn't bother insuring it. Your sim is in another phone already, isn't it? So as long as your sim is pin-protected in the phone you're using it in, wheres the risk, that your house insurance would pay up for?
  • Collabora
    Collabora Posts: 1,360 Forumite
    i really think you're overthinking this - isn't this your "spare in-a-drawer" handset anyway? Its a sub-£50 phone, if the IMEI number is causing problems getting it insured, I just wouldn't bother insuring it. Your sim is in another phone already, isn't it? So as long as your sim is pin-protected in the phone you're using it in, wheres the risk, that your house insurance would pay up for?

    spare phone would still be used, so i need it added to the house insurance, which they need the IMEI. this will be in case i am trying to add a stolen phone i guess, but as the IMEI does not match the phone i have they cant add it.

    This is an issue with tesco and their supplier who have the wrong IMEI number recorded for the phone.
  • d123
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    I suspect the change of Motorola ownership to Lenovo means the IMEI range used has changed and the databases haven't updated yet. I very much doubt Tesco would be buying phones from counterfeiters.
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  • Collabora
    Collabora Posts: 1,360 Forumite
    d123 wrote: »
    I suspect the change of Motorola ownership to Lenovo means the IMEI range used has changed and the databases haven't updated yet. I very much doubt Tesco would be buying phones from counterfeiters.

    the IMEI says its a Samsung E490, so cant add it to home insurance etc. as it does not match upto the phone.

    So this has been messed up somewhere along the line and for insurance purposed it is classed as a fake and the details dont match
  • wealdroam
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    Collabora wrote: »
    ...for insurance purposed it is classed as a fake and the details dont match
    Who exactly has classed your phone as a fake?

    That's a pretty serious allegation.
  • This problem with the phone may just prove academic if the phone is stolen as most insurance companies impose an excess on claims and it may well be much higher than the value of the phone.
  • Collabora
    Collabora Posts: 1,360 Forumite
    This problem with the phone may just prove academic if the phone is stolen as most insurance companies impose an excess on claims and it may well be much higher than the value of the phone.

    I looked into all of this, why do people think mobile phone insurance is just their if a phone is stolen.

    The Phone IS TO BE ADDED ONTO HOUSE INSURANCE AND THEY CHECK THE IMEI AS THIS DOES NOT MATCH THE PHONE THEN IT CANT BE ADDED.

    Why can it not be that hard to get a phone with a correctly listed IMEI, this is what i am entitled too as otherwise anyone with a stolen phone can say they got it wrong the IMEI on record does not matter.


    d123 wrote: »
    I very much doubt Tesco would be buying phones from counterfeiters.

    Not Knowingly, but it does happen. Its not that long ago fake Vodka was found in Tesco and Sainsbury even though it was from their normal supplier
  • grumbler
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    Collabora wrote: »
    I looked into all of this, why do people think mobile phone insurance is just their if a phone is stolen.
    Lost/stolen/damaged
    The Phone IS TO BE ADDED ONTO HOUSE INSURANCE AND THEY CHECK THE IMEI AS THIS DOES NOT MATCH THE PHONE THEN IT CANT BE ADDED.
    Again, is it really worth claiming on the house insurance (possibly with an excess) and causing the insurance premium rising next year?

    It can be different for a 'free' insurance coming with a bank account though.
    Why can it not be that hard to get a phone with a correctly listed IMEI,
    I don't understand the question. Are you asking "Why can it be that easy to get a phone with a correctly listed IMEI?".
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