RE: Landlord Fitted Boiler, Not Corgi Registered. [IMAGES ENCLOSED]

eco-friendly_2

[quote=Canucklehead;5909536]Good morning: All new/ replacement boiler installations must be notified to Building Control...a CORGI installer can self certify his/her own installations but anyone else must notify Building Control before works start...

Good morning: Before making conclusions ( generalize) please try and remember this forum also covers Scotland ! where NO notification to building control is required for the installation of a new/ replacement boiler installation . We don't have that PART P P*** either, Many Scottish laws and regs, are different to england and wales.

peter999

If you also want comments from Plumbers try posting on https://www.diynot.com/forums/

It's full of plumbers who are helpful & know their stuff.

Good for a laugh as Plumbers like to rip into cowboys.

peter999

Canucklehead

Good morning: For my friends, family and MSE members in Scotland an excellent website dedicated to Building regulations and related activities...
http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/homeimprovements.html

Hopefully other MSErs with detailed knowledge of the system in Scotland will post useful links and provide good advice.

HTH

Canucklehead

kingkano

Canucklehead wrote: »

Good morning: All new/ replacement boiler installations must be notified to Building Control...a CORGI installer can self certify his/her own installations but anyone else must notify Building Control before works start...
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/genpub/en/1115313928783.html
See also Section 1.5 of the Domestic Heating Compliance Guide http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_PTL_DOMHEAT.pdf
Failure to produce a copy of your Building Regs Compliance Certificate for gas works (and electrics for that matter) could impede the sale of your property in the future ( and housebuyers are becoming more savvy about conveyancing etc especially when they read this forum )

HTH

Canucklehead

Its just a shame we pay over the odds to a CORGI installers who can't even be bothered to notify, thereby rendering it all a complete sham. I had a gas fire installed last november, and this year my boiler serviced and kitchen redone (by different people). Both these installers haven't bothered to notify CORGI. CORGI wash their hands of it and tell me its not their problem. I have tried endless times to get these 2 people to notify (a whole £3.50 I've since be told) and they always promise to on the phone, but haven't yet.

So tell me, what difference does it make? I now probably have to get building regs out to inspect it all at a cost of about £300? I should just have gotten a savvy friend to do it and paid the building regs instead of the huge sum these CORGI guys charged.....

Why won't CORGI police their own system? As soon as your registered you can do what the heck you like?

(most cross with CORGI :mad: )

Canucklehead

kingkano wrote: »

Its just a shame we pay over the odds to a CORGI installers who can't even be bothered to notify, thereby rendering it all a complete sham. I had a gas fire installed last november, and this year my boiler serviced and kitchen redone (by different people). Both these installers haven't bothered to notify CORGI. CORGI wash their hands of it and tell me its not their problem. I have tried endless times to get these 2 people to notify (a whole £3.50 I've since be told) and they always promise to on the phone, but haven't yet.

So tell me, what difference does it make? I now probably have to get building regs out to inspect it all at a cost of about £300? I should just have gotten a savvy friend to do it and paid the building regs instead of the huge sum these CORGI guys charged.....

Why won't CORGI police their own system? As soon as your registered you can do what the heck you like?

(most cross with CORGI :mad: )

Good morning: CORGI needs to get its act together! I've posted advice to MSErs twice now in a situation similar to yours...in fact you posted on this one http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=414839&highlight=boiler fortunately it was resolved http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=5660230&postcount=3
My OH, Corgi Guy, has several issues with CORGI ....if you visit Gas News website http://www.gas-news.co.uk/ you will see that he isn't the only one!
The HSE is launching a new regime for domestic gas safety http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/safetyreview.htm Maybe CORGI will get the heave-ho but I wouldn't bet on it. (Perhaps you should send a formal letter to HSE detailing your issues with CORGI !)
Laws and regulations are only as useful as their enforcement.
Good luck.

Canucklehead

kingkano

Yes I did. Not much has happened since then. I've tried phone calls, registered letters, asked CORGI to sort it out (they said I have to contact the installer).

Fortunately for that poster, their installer got their act together Unfortunately, the guys who did mine don't answer my calls anymore and don't seem to care (they have their money I guess). The only solution I can come up with is telling CORGI I am worried about the safety of the install (gas fire). Although could that then land me with a cost anyways, which doesn't seem fair?

Or of course paying for an inspection. I thought it was an isolated case but since its happened to me again it just makes me thing the whole thing is a big SHAM. I don't even understand why, like I say I've been told recently that it costs the installer about £3.50 or something to notify CORGI. Yet its going to cost me £100+ to get building control out??? I'll even give them the £3.50!!!

Canucklehead

Hi again! Were both CORGIs eligible to self certify the work i.e did CORGI indicate this to you? e.g. http://www.trustcorgi.com/consumer/requestacertificate.htmx

Canucklehead

kingkano

Yes. To be fair the kitchen one was just servicing the boiler (probably not a corgi certificate to follow) and plugging in the cooker. I can get away with this I'd say. The other was the installation of a gas fireplace which I would expect I really need the certificate for as Im selling the flat right now. He told me a cert. would come from CORGI..... (I checked they were registered and they are, and the installer is notifying other work to them apparently, he just didnt bother with mine strangely)

JJ-07

Todays Update:

They are here! wooooh! And its full steam ahead.

Theres a twist in the chain though. The corgi guy asked me who fitted the boiler, i told him the landlord, and he told me the landlords son told him he dont know who done it. But the corgi installer has taken my number and is going to pass it on to the right people who are going to take him to court, but they will need my story, also 3 of the housemates also will testify to the fact that the landlord fitted it.

As soon as the corgi guy turned on the boiler, water started leaking from the pipes in more then one place, he photoed it aswell. See how unsafe it was, We only had it on for one day aswell.

Ahh its all fun and games. Apparently we also have a chance of getting some money for problems caused due to the landlord not getting his act together properly and quickly enough and causing all this mess.

He is due rent next week, do you think i should tell him straight up that he isnt getting full rent because we had no hot water and gas for 5 days? Or is this likley to cause more problems and give him more of a right to kick us out quicker?

Guy_Montag

I would pay full rent in the mean time, you don't want to give him anything to throw at you yet. Five days isn't that long anyway.