RE: Landlord Fitted Boiler, Not Corgi Registered. [IMAGES ENCLOSED]

Canucklehead

Hi, again...thanks for posting the pics. ...looking forward to hearing CORGI's verdict.

Canucklehead

daisy_doughnut_2

i looked at the pics but to be honest im a home maker an know nothing about what im seeing but weather the job is excellent or poor the only issue here is he isnt corgi registered therefore he broke the law
report him an im guessing that they may condem your boiler now its not so bad in the sumer but the land lord may not be in a rush to fix the problem an you may need some professional advice
i know you can go to the cab or contact the local council office they normaly have a person there that can help it could get tricky if its condemd

good luck

matto

Agree with others, it doesn't look dangerous.

One additional thing that seems to be wrong is the mains feed into the central heating side of the boiler seems to be fixed (last pic). I think its water regs require this to be a removable connection which is removed post filling to avoid backflow of central heating water (including its additives) into the mains water supply. There should also be a double check valve. This is highly unlikely except if the mains water supply fails or is at low presure. It's a little difficult to tell from the picture, but what you should have is a filling loop which is normally a silver braided flexible hose to connect between mains water supply and the central heating side of the boiler.

The you must be a CORGI thing annoys me as I used to be certificated to work on hydrogen cyanide plant. Call me arrogant if you like but I reckon that's a suffucient degree of competence. Then of course there's the issue of the competence of CORGI people anyway. I was round my parents when they were having a new gas fire installed and he managed to drill through the gas supply pipe!

Guy_Montag

matto wrote: »

Agree with others, it doesn't look dangerous.

One additional thing that seems to be wrong is the mains feed into the central heating side of the boiler seems to be fixed (last pic). I think its water regs require this to be a removable connection which is removed post filling to avoid backflow of central heating water (including its additives) into the mains water supply. There should also be a double check valve. This is highly unlikely except if the mains water supply fails or is at low presure.

The you must be a CORGI thing annoys me as I used to be certificated to work on hydrogen cyanide plant. Call me arrogant if you like but I reckon that's a suffucient degree of competence. Then of course there's the issue of the competence of CORGI people anyway. I was round my parents when they were having a new gas fire installed and he managed to drill through the gas supply pipe

I get your point about being more skilled than a CORGI engineer, however, the point of CORGI cert is to reduce the number of real muppets working on gas. That there are still a few is hardly surprising, but it's still better than letting any idiot at your gas appliances.

Canucklehead

matto wrote: »

Agree with others, it doesn't look dangerous.

One additional thing that seems to be wrong is the mains feed into the central heating side of the boiler seems to be fixed (last pic). I think its water regs require this to be a removable connection which is removed post filling to avoid backflow of central heating water (including its additives) into the mains water supply. There should also be a double check valve. This is highly unlikely except if the mains water supply fails or is at low presure. It's a little difficult to tell from the picture, but what you should have is a filling loop which is normally a silver braided flexible hose to connect between mains water supply and the central heating side of the boiler.

The you must be a CORGI thing annoys me as I used to be certificated to work on hydrogen cyanide plant. Call me arrogant if you like but I reckon that's a suffucient degree of competence. Then of course there's the issue of the competence of CORGI people anyway. I was round my parents when they were having a new gas fire installed and he managed to drill through the gas supply pipe!

Hi: It is impossible to conduct a comprehensive assessment of the installation based solely on a few photos...also I am not a CORGI engineer and not competent in gas work (My OH, Corgi Guy, is the plumbing and heating expert in the family;) ) The CORGI inspector who is visiting the installation today will be better placed to make a determination and we look forward to that report. For more info visit www.trustcorgi.com

Canucklehead

EliteHeat

JJ-07 wrote: »

What gives him the right to possibly put students lives at risk because he cant do a proper job?

Would it be OK for him to put non-student lives at risk?

PROFESSIONAL_LANDLORD

EliteHeat wrote: »

Undersized pipe work. There are two tests to perform, the first measures the working pressure of the gas supply with the appliance running. The second measures the actual consumption of gas and compares this to the stated heat input figure for the capacity of the boiler. Neither, I suspect, have been done and so it is not possible to say whether the gas supply is undersized as far too much information is missing.

According to eco-friendly, you do not need to be Corgi registered to do this work. He has 35 years experience of installing gas appliances illegally, so he is probably the best person to advise you in this matter. for further information about the legalities of this sort of thing please read this



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News on 8th June 1996. The letter
was written by Bob Henry, Director of Operations, CORGI.

Guy_Montag

Rather than quoting from another forum, I would prefer to go to the govt's own website:

As a landlord, you are responsible for the safety of your tenants. The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 specifically deal with the duties of landlords to ensure that gas appliances, fittings and flues provided for tenants' use are safe. Landlords should:

• ensure installation pipe work, appliances and flues provided for tenants are maintained in a safe condition

• ensure an annual safety check is carried out on each appliance and/or flue that you provide for tenants use

• ensure maintenance and annual safety checks are carried out by a CORGI registered installer
• keep a record of each safety check for 2 years

• issue a copy of the safety check to each existing tenant within 28 days of check being completed and to any new tenant before they move in

• ensure all gas equipment (including any appliance left by a previous tenant) is safe or otherwise removed before re-letting

• if a managing agent is used to help the landlord in meeting their duties, make sure that the management contract clearly specifies who is to make arrangements for maintenance and safety checks to be carried out and for keeping records. However, the landlord maintains overall responsibility for ensuring duties are met, irrespective of whether a managing agent is employed
• ensure that anyone carrying out work on gas appliances/fittings and/or flues provided for tenants use has the required competence and that only CORGI registered installers are used

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/Planning/ChoosingTradersAndServiceProviders/DG_4018095

Let's add to that with:

(4) Every landlord shall ensure that any work in relation to a relevant gas fitting or any check of a gas appliance or flue carried out pursuant to paragraphs (2) or (3) above is carried out by, or by an employee of, a member of a class of persons approved for the time being by the Health and Safety Executive for the purposes of regulation 3(3) of these Regulations.

The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998

Canucklehead

PL: And your point is...?

Canucklehead

EliteHeat

Canucklehead wrote: »

PL: And your point is...?

Canucklehead

Hang on .... was it Professional Landlord who did this work?